Pseudo-independant clinical time
- 0Jan 7, '04 by ColdfootSo here's a thought. After I get my RN via Excelsior what if the state I move to requires clinical training (like CA is doing)? Say I've been in the field 1, 2, 5 years and move somewhere that has an issue with this? Just thinking out loud.
I wonder about setting something up like Deaconess has, on my own. I have a fair amount of experiance and don't think I need the clinical time to learn the skills, I just need the piece of paper.
Don't start on the flames about if this is a worry go to a traditional school, it's not an option and not what I'm up to right now.
- 0Jan 7, '04 by ImaEMTHI,
When I researched Excelsior, I asked them about clinicals. The rep told me I could certinly set up clinicals, but of course, the liabilty as a student would be all my own. The DON at that time, of our hospital, said that without that liability coverage, I was welcome to do rotations as an observer only, and I couldn't touch a patient! I don't know if that will be true of all hospitals?
I wondered if there was a liability insurance that one could take out as a student to cover practicing skills? I never did pursue looking into insurance like that, though.
I would hope that after working for a while, and with your prior knowledge, someone would be able to verify your skills...like a competency check-off of something.
- 0Jan 8, '04 by Mrs.YostI would assume that most hospitals won't allow you to touch anyone. Even though you can get individual insurance, they probably won't consider it unless your school is also insuring you because the hospital will still carry a large portion of the risk.
Deaconess does insure the students so that the hospitals are at less risk.
Just my thoughts.
- 0Jan 8, '04 by llg GuideI am happy to see some of these issues discussed in an open forum such as this. Many students (and prospective students) never think about liability issues.
As the liaison with the local nursing schools for my hospital (in Virginia), I can tell you that we definitely do not allow any students come in and deliver any kind of care without first adrressing the insurance issue. Most of the time, the school has coverage and that takes care of it. A few schools we deal with require that the student provide their own insurance -- which is hard on the students because we require them to have high levels of coverage.
I feel sorry for the students who contact me, wanting to arrange various types of experiences but have not considered these issues. Some wait until the last minute to try to arrange their clinical experiences and are thrown into a crisis because it is not nearly as easy as they thought.
Good luck with your program,
- 0Jan 8, '04 by sagelolaI don't know anything about having insurance while completely not in a program that has clinicals...but even those of us going to a traditional school are required to have insurance. I don't know what the difference is between the 2 types, but mine only costs me $20 annually. It's through NSO and you can get it online. I don't know if that helps any...but you could check it out.