to start this off allnurses.com has been very beneficial for me trying to figure out how to complete my transition from lpn to rn. i am ever so grateful to have come across this site where nurses can gain knowledge and support from other nurses or soon to be's! i have been researching for days and wanted to compile all the info into a current thread with links, from reading threads and posts from this site and others. this is my
why i want you to read this before signing up is to help anyone possible save time, money and regret. reading a post like this would have saved thousands of $ for me, and hours too!
i signed up with tcn 3 years ago and have yet to take an exam. i struggle with my learning type. find out yours before signing up for any online courses, the following link will do this for you.
not that you can't do them with a certain learning style but you may need more resources to study. for me sitting and reading is not me. i have to listen and interact using my hands.
as for starting lpn school
(vocational type), if you think you may ever want to continue your education afterwards or to get pre-requisites done prior to lpn you can get them completed with clep's or ece's with a small amount of money invested as opposed the loans you may acquire later. ** make sure the school you want to go to accepts these, a lot of them do** you can go to the clep website, it has lots of info too http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/clep/about.html
to find out who does accept these or ask the school. be cautious asking the school, i have read that one had said they did not when in fact they did, but the counselor was getting commission for signing people up with classes. if you are going to a vocational school like i did, the courses you take there are not credited. this means you will have to retake all of them for rn transition. if you can take these prior to vocational school you should not have to take those courses there- check with the school first. my thought, get these courses done before lpn school starts and if you want to later go back then you already have the credit. as for study material on clep's keep reading.
ohhh the acronyms... they give me a headache! i'll give a guide to them at the bottom.
lpn to rn or bsn
like i said i have purchased tcn modules which are only study guides for clep's, dantes, or ece. academic support not as "supportive" as i think they should be, and everything is on their terms. i found more support on my own through forums. allnurses and instantcert are free and have very motivating supportive people, just like you. http://www.degreeforum.net/
there are so many study materials out there for free or a little $. some people only use instantcert flashcards to study and pass. got to following website and click the flashcard subjects. http://www.instantcert.com/college.php4
keep in mind that they are not a nurses site but in all fields taking some of the same pre-req's. it takes some research to find out what pre-req's are required @ your school of choice. you can also get free study materials from your local library or on your states virtual library site, some also have free pre clep test exams. also you can get lectures on you tube (free) and sent to mobile devices (cost under $10-like iphone, ipod, etc.). check out ebay or amazon
for modules and test prep too! ec and isu accept the clep's and more than likely isu accepts the ece's, keep in mind ece are excelsior exams. you find this info at ec's website cause you have to register there free first to test but you do not have to be enrolled, also check out the credit by exam tab for a lot of helpful info. see exam other options. http://www.excelsior.edu/ecapps/exams/creditbyexam.jsf
for ec you have to enroll to take faac and cpne. i know that isu and tcn are partnered up so if you are thinking that route contact isu and don't let them force you to buy tcn. btw... isu is now accredited in california according to the ca bon website (08/2011), which brings a point to look at. make sure the school you choose is accredited by your states bon! as far as not getting hired b/c you got your schooling at ec or isu, most places do not look at your school or check references for that matter, they only check if you have a current valid license without any restrictions or disciplines on the bon website and if you are breathing! if they do have a problem with it i wouldn't want to work for them anyway.
dl is not the "easy way out" you have to work even harder, learn everything on your own and be more disciplined. also you have to consider the cpne, not a breeze so i have read. as far as tcn being a scam, well they do send you a module if you call them; they will only send 1 every 30 days. they sell very expensive study guides. and do not let them finance your exams fees, like i did. big mistake and not motivating like i thought it would be. so it is legit.
i plan on going through ec, isu would have been nice but the clinicals seem complicated (getting your own preceptor). i first am completing my exams then going from there, already paid for tcn so i am using it. i joined instantcert and already have retained more info in a much shorter time (3hrs)than traditional reading. i also used a promo code: 34463 and saved even more (14.95 1st mth then 19.95/mth) but to me well worth the extra cash cause time is money:d! this might not be for everyone and there are free flashcards out there http://www.studystack.com/
but those are not as interactive as i needed. please understand that i am not employed by or advertising for any company nor is that my intent. i am a lpn that works ltc and hope to help out any person considering distance learning or nursing. if it was not for all the people caring enough to post on these forums, i would still be stuck in the mud, so thank you all contributors! i am still on my journey so i have not yet mastered the dl road but i feel i have a real handle on things and haven't felt so positive about this in my life. i appreciate any feedback, more suggestions, free learning websites, cheap websites or if i have inspired you! i will keep you posted on my accomplishments too!
acronym's: ec= excelsior college; isu=indiana state university; tcn= the college network; dl= distance learning; ece= excelsior college exam; clep=college level examination program; bon= board of nursing
Dec 8, '11
this is why i didn't want to go through isu:
to each its own. that is why we have so many programs. isu is designed for those students who cannot attend regular nursing school. many states do not accept dl programs. isu is an accredited program and accepted in more states -- especially the most difficult state california -- where many dl programs are not accepted.
1. it would still take me about 3 years to complete a bsn even though i currently hold a bachelors in another field.
having a bachelors degree in another subject only cuts down on the gen ed classes. it does not decrease the requirements for your bachelors in nursing.
2. i have an issue with being forced to pay for tcn study guides.
i don't know how you were forced to pay tcn. tcn only sells study guides. isu has repeatedly stated that you do not need to use the tcn study guides to pass the challenge exams. like all colleges and universities who have challenge exams, isu will provide objectives and what to study as well as make suggestions about what books to obtain and study from. however, fail a challenge exam and you are forced to pay for the tcn study guide for that course. rationale is: tcn will make sure the student passes to the point of providing a tutor--allegedly.
3. i have an issue with challenging exams when i already took those during my lvn program. why should we have to test out? give us credit for our previous nursing courses.
many colleges and universities require lvn/lpns to retake classes. ventura community college in ventura has a lvn program--if there is room in the regular program. their program is full time and 9 months (3 semester). the lvn starts out in the 2nd semester and takes what is required. many colleges and universities do not trust the education lvns receive from their former school. because their pass rate is based on how many students pass and because they did not educate those lvns, many will require lvns to retake classes. now, el camino community college in redondo beach has a full time lvn to adn aspect--if there is room, one goes into the last 2 semesters of the adn degree after the previous semester the lvn took the lvn to adn nursing readiness course. only difference is this student skips 2 semesters--but with the lvn to adn nursing readiness course, it is actually 3 semesters.remember these programs are full time--not dl and not part time as isu is.
many colleges and universities will not grant credit for nursing classes not taken at their facility. the nice thing with being an lvn/lpn is the student enters as an advanced nursing student.
while isu may not satisfy your needs, it does for those students who need an accredited, part time, state authorized distant learning lvn/lpn to bsn program.
congratulations on finding a program that adheres to your needs and going forward with your degree.
Last edit by LadyinScrubs on Dec 8, '11