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if you were in this situation: - no experience and training. but passed NLE and NCLEX. - accepted that there's no way you could get experience without money if you have hundred thousand nurse... Read More
Sep 29, '09 by twisted189Quote from medic28yes indeed,what else should we do? in my opinion, its better to spend time volunteering at a hospital and apply apply apply APPLY the nursing skills that i learned from college. as an uncle told me, "if you dont use it..YOU WILL LOSE IT"! im afraid that with each passing day, my grasp of the nursing profession gets weaker and weaker if io dont do nything about it. besides, volunteering is much better than staying at home and waiting.okay,just keep it doing it... join the flock of unpaid volunteers and trainees... and help worsen the condition by tolerating these hospitals, one nurse at a time... until they don't hire a single nurse anymore.hehe tsk tsk!
Quote from arvicharlie@ hushdawg:
could you please provide me some names and contact info of these direct hire employers because i've been looking for these kinds but no luck yet.
I'm sorry.. I wish I could help you but POEA regulations prohibit this.
Legally even though I make no money from introducing you to an employer, if something happens to you in the course of the job or while under contract by the employer/staffing agency I will be held liable by POEA.
Quote from NurseCubanitaRN2bI mean hospitals founded and usually operated by US companies.What do you mean by American founded hospitals? Do you mean American hospitals overseas? If that's the case, I thought American hosptials overseas only allow US citizens to work there. Please clarify.
Many of these are established in the Middle east and while supervisory and administrative positions are held by Americans, the rest of the staff can come from anywhere; frequently they come from the Philippines.
Sep 29, '09 by medic8apply in other fields of nursing, school, occupational health etc.i know it's not that easy, and if it really wouldn't be possible, then find a real job that pays even if it's not a nursing job at least you will be earning money to support your own needs and you help lessen the burden of your parents or those who support you financially. and again... the number of nurses volunteering will be lessened if not totally stopped.
life is hard.. this is the reality.. so get a job, it's hard really hard to be jobless nowadays, but remaining jobless for more than a year? i don't know, well maybe those people are just lucky to have their parents or relatives to support their needs.
broaden your horizons, open your mind. boycott paid / unpaid volunteer programs!
Sep 29, '09 by NurseCubanitaRN2bIf you guys REFUSE to work for free then the hospitals will be forced to hire staff nurses. NO WAY SHOULD YOU WORK FOR FREE!!!..That's slave labor, and you need to stand up to it. Why should the hospitals offer you pay when you're willing to work for free. STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS!!!!
Quote from NurseCubanitaRN2bI cannot agree more.If you guys REFUSE to work for free then the hospitals will be forced to hire staff nurses. NO WAY SHOULD YOU WORK FOR FREE!!!..That's slave labor, and you need to stand up to it. Why should the hospitals offer you pay when you're willing to work for free. STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS!!!!
If you, as a nurse, cannot get a paid position in nursing at a hospital then try to connect with international non-profit organizations that will pay you.
At the very least get into Medical Transcription so that you can keep the medical terms alive in your head and exercise your mind as you are getting the doctor's information by thinking of how you would be providing for this patient.
Anything you can do that is in any way connected to healthcare is a step in the right direction. You may even consider taking positions with some of the more reputable review schools... many of them would prefer to hire nurses for staff positions (even if not as instructors).
If you stop feeding the greed monster in the Philippine hospitals, it will die.
Boycott volunteer and paid nursing in the Philippines, band together with other nurses, stage a walk-out protest.. whatever you have to do to force the government and these hospitals to respect you and treat you the way you deserve to be treated.
Spread the word.
Nov 14, '09 by silvermedShouldn't the PNA need to have a say on this? I mean if only they will speak up and uplift the profession, I will follow, I'm sure, We, will follow and join the bandwagon. We're all forced to do this (paying to volunteer) anyway. If only there is a consensus that, if I vacate my volunteer slot, no one will be there the next day doing my volunteer job and paying my volunteer fee.
Shouldn't there be a partylist for nurses in the congress? And tell them that most people are in this profession because they want to leave the Philippines? Or a non-profit organization called Alliance Of Concerned Nurses Because PNA Won't Bother (ACNBPNAWB).
On the other hand, I think it's human nature too to seek the greener pasture. People were lured to the profession by the thought of easy money, only to be dumbfounded of how nursing has become in the Philippines nowadays. I think the profession was victim of this phenomenon.
If they say that Architects are very in demand abroad, pays well and Filipino Architects are especially sought after, I guess people will flock to this profession too; and soon there would be volunteer Architects as well.
The only solution I can think of right now is to address the root cause, that we first stop being Filipinos & love our country.....................Right, too far-fetched. Now, I'm lost.
Nov 15, '09 by koxikosiQuote from medic28I'm interested with BOSH training. How can I have one?there are companies that hire company nurses without experience... but it is an advantage if you have the BOSH training and BLS and first aid. just be assertive and be confident in applying.
Nov 15, '09 by HushdawgQuote from silvermedThe cynic in me would say that PNA will care about it when they are paid to care.Shouldn't the PNA need to have a say on this?
Quote from silvermedThere already is: http://allnurses.com/philippine-nurs...st-375618.htmlShouldn't there be a partylist for nurses in the congress?
Quote from silvermedSee; that's a problem to me. The government should recognize that it is in the nation's best interest to ensure that the economy is strong enough to support professionals in a capacity that will encourage them to remain in the Philippines instead of perpetuating the mentality of servitude.And tell them that most people are in this profession because they want to leave the Philippines?
I have no problem with my task of helping nurses with professional goals which also include overseas work but ultimately I would want to see the condition in the Philippines reach such a point that my job is no longer needed.
Quote from silvermedNow that made me snort coffee!Or a non-profit organization called Alliance Of Concerned Nurses Because PNA Won't Bother (ACNBPNAWB).
Quote from silvermedAbsolutely! The quality of the Pinoy nurse has dropped much over the last 15 years because of this ideology! Luckuly for US citizens only the best of the best are able to make it through the entire process to work in the USA but the really sad thing is that so many Filipinos are wasting time and money in nursing schools only to end at graduation and wind up in a call center.On the other hand, I think it's human nature too to seek the greener pasture. People were lured to the profession by the thought of easy money, only to be dumbfounded of how nursing has become in the Philippines nowadays. I think the profession was victim of this phenomenon.
Quote from silvermedI love you.If they say that Architects are very in demand abroad, pays well and Filipino Architects are especially sought after, I guess people will flock to this profession too; and soon there would be volunteer Architects as well.
Quote from silvermedEveryone is lost. The self-hate that I see in a lot of pinoys is sad. I've moved to this country and have become an adopted son and it is frustrating to me because I've discovered that I know more about Pinoy heroes (other than Jose Rizal) than many Filipinos!The only solution I can think of right now is to address the root cause, that we first stop being Filipinos & love our country.....................Right, too far-fetched. Now, I'm lost.
Andres Bonifacio is my man... he understood that the only way for the Filipino people to be truly liberated was to cast out all means of external ties and for the people to become self sufficient.
Ultimately my experience in NGOs has proven that this mentality is the right one and the only mentality that can truly change the condition of a people.
Pinoy Pride is deeply in need here... too many kids want to grow up to be rock stars and glamor models. Too many want to leave the Islands for good.
Too many want to pass for other nationalities or pretend to be half-half.
Blame the Spanish, blame the Japanese, blame the Americans... but ultimately it is YOU that has to look into the mirror and answer for choices in your own life.
To all Pinoy nurses:
Take pride in being Pinoy.
Take pride in being a nurse.
Use your skills and talent to improve yourself and your condition and then build up your family and community.
Elevate the status of Filipinos in the Philippines as well as abroad.
It is time for the Filipinos to shine at home instead of just overseas.
Nov 17, '09 by medic8Quote from tinesirkcheck this link http://www.oshc.dole.gov.ph/UserFile...20Brochure.pdfI'm interested with BOSH training. How can I have one?
Nov 22, '09 by ChicagoPedsMy sister-in-law lives in the Philippines so I thought I would just read through some posts to see how the conditions are for you guys...and my goes out to you all. I am amazed that you are in the position where you need to "volunteer" and pay to work in order to get experience. That is incredibly ridiculous, sad and disheartening!!! You have all earned your degrees and your nursing license...(and from what I have heard, your programs are pretty intense!). You have earned the right to be paid for the knowledge and skill that you possess....not volunteer & pay for the experience. I hope that this will be changed....(especially reading about your nurseatient ratios as well....not safe.).
On the flip side, (just like others have posted) hiring in the U.S. for nursing positions is slower right now (although you will NEVER see a stateside nurse paying to work as a nurse)....the positions are not as plentiful as they were prior to this economic mess we are in currently. For new grads it is also difficult b/c more and more hospitals are looking for experienced nurses (so they are in the same position you are in...education but no experience). Also, nurses who may be at an age to retire are deciding not to because of the economic situation.
Nursing programs in the U.S. are also very competitive...there are many people who have applied multiple times to nursing school before they are admitted to the program. The nursing school I am currently at (for my masters degree) has decided to get rid of their nursing bachelor's degree programs....so there are even less openings.