IEN Registration in Alberta to become more difficult - page 6
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This just in: "Immigrants with nursing credentials will soon have a harder time getting licensed to work in Alberta. Provincial funding for Mount Royal University’s Internationally Educated Nurses Assessment program is... Read More
- 5Mar 30, '13 by CodeteamBWell, I'm in it now, so here's my two cents. As a first generation Canadian descendant of internationally educated nurses and physicians I have a slightly different perspective.
I do believe that the contributions of IENs are valuable to the Canadian nursing profession. The same reason that IENs must be appraised prior to starting practice is one of the reasons that they can enrich our workpool. Education is different to varying degrees around the world and different regions focus on different aspects of practice. If you take a pool of Canadian new grads and compare with a pool of Filipino or Indian new grads you will find that overall the different groups will excel in different areas of practice.
I do not fear IENs, I do not resent them, and I will never agree that we in this country make immigration "too easy." People immigrating to Canada work very hard to make it happen, often leaving loved ones behind and making other sacrifices. There is still institutionalized racism in the process to immigrate to Canada and many of the lovely, strong women I have worked with over the years have stories that would break your heart.
I get the anxiety over our workforce and the current political and economic climate. When people are afraid for their livelihood things can get adversarial. In reading this thread I have perceived emotions of anger, fear, anxiety and jealousy from both sides. Again, I get it, it's not easy for either Canadian or International nurses right now.
All I can say is that the surplus or shortage of nurses in this province is almost wholly a construct of our government's priorities (or whims). It is difficult to predict what is going to happen in the next year, never mind beyond.
I hope those of you reading this who are working towards your goal of nursing in Canada persevere and are successful.
I wish nothing but good things for my fellow Albertan nurses.
I hope we can all learn to see the value that each nurse, regardless of origins, can bring to the table.
Above all I hope that someday we will live in a province that recognizes the enormous importance of healthcare and the equally vast contribution of nurses and other frontline workers to our society.
- 2Mar 30, '13 by joanna73 GuideThis has absolutely nothing to do with fearing IENs. As I said, they will make their own decisions. He/she asked....we answered truthfully based on current market conditions. It's as simple as that.
If you believe otherwise, that's fine too. However, I would suggest you do your own research on the matter. What do I know?
- 0Mar 30, '13 by CodeteamBWe can agree to disagree, but for the record I am not uninformed or too young to remember what it was like in the 90's "nurses and teachers" describes my family pretty much perfectly. Things aren't sunshine and roses in Alberta but if I based my opinion solely on the comments of Alberta nurses on this forum I would have a lot more anxiety than I currently do.
Mine is a different opinion, no less valid for being unique here, and I read a lot of fear and anxiety in many of the posts by several nurses on this forum. If I am incorrect then you have my apologies.
As to the original topic of this thread, since I did not make it explicit in my other posts, I disagree with closing down the MRU program and with defunding it. Our government has been flying by the seat of their pants for as long as I have been nursing, making short sighted and reactionary decisions. We have obviously not learned from our history, and you know what they say about that.
- 0Mar 30, '13 by tokidoki7Quote from nosh padeI'm an RN in the United States and I'll be sitting for the CPNRE in May. I don't have a bachelors in nursing to practice as an RN in Canada, so I'm aiming to be an LPN. If I do pass this exam, my concerns will then be to find employment as well as obtain a visa. Until that happens, I will stay in the U.S. until I can find an opportunity to work in Alberta.I will process my documents on clpna..
These are the requirements of clpna..
IF ALL OF THE BELOW STATEMENTS are TRUE, use the IEN Self-Assessment Tool to determine if you are likely to meet CLPNA’s registration requirements and eligible to apply for registration as an LPN in Alberta.
Eligible applicants must:
- Have registration as a nurse outside of Canada.
- Have never been registered as an LPN in Canada.
- Have successfully completed a nursing education program outside of Canada.
- Have nursing practice hours in the past four years or have graduated from a nursing education program in the past four years. (In order for worked hours to qualify as nursing practice hours, you must have been registered, hired, and paid as a nurse. Practice hours do not include sick time, vacation or volunteering.)
and here is the link
Internationally Educated Nurses
- Have registration as a nurse outside of Canada.
- 3Mar 30, '13 by Fiona59I'm curious, why do you want to live in Alberta? We have lousy winters. Potholes that you can lose a small animal in when the thaw hits.
A conservative government that could screw up a stag night in a brewery.
Lousy sports teams.
And the male eye candy isn't that good.
It can't be a spouse or you'd already be here freezing your bits off.
- 1Mar 30, '13 by tokidoki7I'm in Edmonton right now. Im visiting my fiance. The weather is pretty similar to the weather at home but a little more intense. We don't get this much snow at home. The pot holes have been horrible here as well. I would like to visit Calgary one day as it seems more vibrant than Edmonton. Edmonton is okay but I feel sorry for anyone who has never left to visit places outside of Edmonton .
- 2Mar 31, '13 by Trishrpn80Quote from Fiona59Off topic.. Hahaha i just stepped in one of those this morning as we are starting to have break up here... Couldnt help but gigglePotholes that you can lose a small animal in when the thaw hits.
Ok back to your regularly scheduled thread
- 0Jun 18, '13 by IlzeWow, so interesting to follow! I am a international trained RN. I am interested to work in Canada. Not because I am desperate or fleeing my country. I am young and want to travel and see the world. I really feel our training and practical experience are some of the best in the world. Good to hear some personal experiences, this is not what you hear from agencies "promising a 100% success rate". Like many other young professionals I dream of traveling the world and to experience different cultures, and although I am sure it is not all bad, boy oh boy... I really do not want to be treated as a "foreigner who took a possible job from born and bread Canadian". Thanks for reality check, and CodeteamB thanks for your honest opinion though positive outlook towards the future. I will pursue this dream... by the way... no intention of any institution paying for anything, I can do it myself. Now just to decide where shall I begin with my dream. As for the potholes and crappy weather, that is crap! But if you haven't experienced snow and like the thought a something with big wheels, why not!