MSN Education Programs bizarre range
0Nov 14, '11 by finchfamily4what is the deal with msn programs? i have seriously looked at hundreds of nursing schools online. some admission requirements are out of this world. you would think these programs would try to be competitive with each other. why are some programs 30 hours and some 50+? some have difficult courses some without. some with huge clinical hours some without? most if not all are accredited. what is going on? i can understand price differences - prestigious university vs. non. well no, i can't. why would anyone pay $1000+ per hour for a nursing degree when i can pay $250/hr?
go some insight to share? i'm baffled.
0Nov 14, '11 by llg GuideHigher education, particularly at its "higher levels" are not "cookie cutter" operations. They do not run on a consumer-based model in which the school produces a product (education and/or degree) and the consumer comparison shops and buys. Nor do accrediting organizations or licensing boards lay down a lot of specific requirements (except in professional schools such as medicine or law in which eligibility to take a licensing exam is involved). Each faculty and each school is given a lot of freedom to determine its degree requirements. That's why a school's reputation is considered so important.
The system is based on a tradition that goes back to ancient times in which faculty members allowed talented students to study with them, do scholarly work, etc. ... and after prooving to the faculty that they are worthy of being considered a fellow expert scholars, a degree was awarded. In some disciplines, it has been common for students not to be required to take any class to earn a PhD -- just produce scholarly work of sufficient quality that contributes meaningfully to the discipline. In other schools and in other disciplines, set courses are customarily required.
The "everybody should do it the same" mentality has never been a big part of the culture of higher education. It is a culture that values uniqueness and the freedom for each faculty to set their own standards. The work of a scholar requires a mind and activities that explore uncharted territory and advance thinking beyond the conventional. Such a mind (and population of professors) does not take well to outsiders trying to force them into a neat and tidy box. That's what tenure is all about -- the right for an established scholar to pursue scholarly interests without the interference of outsiders -- to not have to bend to political influence -- etc.
Academics value that freedom almost about all else.
1Nov 14, '11 by elkparkAlso, the OP does not mention which specialty concentration(s) (if any) s/he is looking at, just "MSNs." There is a big difference between, for example, a Master's in nursing education and a CRNA (or other advanced practice concentration) program. Part of the issue may be that s/he is "comparing apples and oranges" rather than the same kinds of MSN programs.
0Nov 14, '11 by jahraQuote from llgThat's true! And they have a very steady job teaching. I agree with the OP theAcademics value that freedom almost about all else.
program differences are varied and with the current economy and lack of jobs
I have placed a hold on continuing my education at this point.
For many of us not in academics, reality is we need to pay back our loans in
a job that supports a step up in our professional career...
its depends on what opportunities for jobs are available in your
area, even at the lower tuition cost, its possible to get over your
comfort level in loans..