Terminated!!!..now what - page 2

by California2 2,513 Views | 17 Comments

Hi. ANY advice is appreciated here. I am a 15 year veteran RN who just got terminated for something so trivial I am embarrassed to post it here. It has nothing to do with patient care. I have never made a med error, never... Read More


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    Sorry, there is just so much in the OPs post that I need to play devil's advocate here.

    Examples of hyperbole:
    I have never made a med error, never received a patient or family complaint, in fact I get commendations almost daily with many "You are the best nurse I have ever had." [I have yet to hear of a nurse who has never made a mistake AND got accommodations daily. Also, not to be a pain, but a patients idea of a good nurse is one who sits and holds their hand. If this is the case there will be other work that is not getting done. Maybe that non patient care stuff.]

    I have witnessed the worst favoritism, discrimination and no support from management.

    I was a nurse who helped everyone, even when I was busy even if I knew that nurse talked behind my back [This contradicts the comment about being well respected by everyone.]
    [Also, if everyone else was helped, so when were the non patient activities done for this nurses patients?]

    Even though I have overwhelming evidence that this manager is retaliating, HR seems to be siding with her [HR works for the facility not the RN or Nurse Manager. So evidence in support of or against your case is evidence.]
    I hope there is ample documentation to support your claims. If the floor is as horrible as stated it needs to brought out and made an example of.
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    Quote from KeepItRealRN
    Congrats California2 on taking the necessary steps. Don't think of it as fighting for a job you aren't happy with, what is imperative is that the "ineligible for rehire" because of your termination be changed so that you can use that faclity on the next application you fill out for a job. If you get reinstated you then have a few choices. One would be to voluntarily resign without burning bridges of course. Or you might even be able to get a position in another department. Hiring an attorney shows the facility that you mean business and aren't going to take their crap laying down. Like I said a good attorney will be able to torpedo their documentation full of holes. 15 years of experience is worth more than any money that you will spend on legal fees by far. Once you have your attorney on retainer do not communicate directly with the hospital or anyone connected with the hospital. All communication should be done through your lawyer. That is what you are paying him or her to do. I wish you the best of luck and am waiting on pins and needles to read your updates. Not only are you helping yourself but you are helping nurses who have been railroaded in this fashion and may be preventing future nurses from being railroaded by this manager.

    Sure an attorney may not get you rehired, but I guarantee that he/she will at minimum be able to get the hospital to change the reason you left from being fired to resigning on good terms and eligible for rehire, which is what you need in order to apply for a different job.


    thank you. It means so much to me to know there are good honest people out there who understand what I am going through. I am waiting to hear back from several nurse attorneys. I will post updates. I really want to be able to voluntarily resign after getting reinstated because this facility really does not deserve a good nurse like me. I am looking forward to working somewhere new. Thanks again :-)
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    ShillaBSN, With all due respect, like I said, I have overwhelming evidence that this management discriminates, plays favorites, targets, abuses her power, and is RETALIATING. HR is IGNORING the facts. I predicted this manager would find a way to fire me, went to HR for help, and now she has fired me.
    Of course there were a few RN's that did not like me, that's just the nature of a female dominated profession, and typically they are RN's who are lazy or knew I did not respect their work ethic, playing on their phones at the RN station while their call lights were going off or sitting in the breakroom all day, complaining about having to give "so-n-so pain meds again". But for the most part I worked with some great hardworking RN's.
    The floor IS as horrible as I say, my coworkers were all afraid to go to HR to complain with me, now I know why. HR, this HR anyway, is twisting the facts and siding with the management. I guess they will get away with this as long as RN's are afraid to complain for fear of losing their jobs. BTW, I am that rare breed of nurse who makes time to hold my patients hand if really needed AND get the non-patient care stuff done too. And my manager knows it, shame on her.
    Last edit by California2 on Feb 16
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    don't waste your energy. i hate to say this, but move on. let it go. keep your chin up. sounds like you're a good nurse who met a corporate problem. not yours. i like what jadelpn says. it's a sad time for experienced nurses. but every corporation in america does the same thing. you get to a point in your career where you're too expensive. so keep calm and carry on. someone will love you! they didn't deserve you anyway. good luck!
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    Quote from California2
    ShillaBSN, With all due respect, like I said, I have overwhelming evidence that this management discriminates, plays favorites, targets, abuses her power, and is RETALIATING. HR is IGNORING the facts. I predicted this manager would find a way to fire me, went to HR for help, and now she has fired me.
    Of course there were a few RN's that did not like me, that's just the nature of a female dominated profession, and typically they are RN's who are lazy or knew I did not respect their work ethic, playing on their phones at the RN station while their call lights were going off or sitting in the breakroom all day, complaining about having to give "so-n-so pain meds again". But for the most part I worked with some great hardworking RN's.
    The floor IS as horrible as I say, my coworkers were all afraid to go to HR to complain with me, now I know why. HR, this HR anyway, is twisting the facts and siding with the management. I guess they will get away with this as long as RN's are afraid to complain for fear of losing their jobs. BTW, I am that rare breed of nurse who makes time to hold my patients hand if really needed AND get the non-patient care stuff done too. And my manager knows it, shame on her.
    California2, I really hope you have the evidence to prove this. To think that this kind of bullying and retaliation is going on is beyond sad and absolutely frustrating. Politics are a ***** to say the least.

    My point in displaying the emotional items in the thread was to show what can be used against you....if management is this reactionary they will think nothing of twisting all of your caring words into ways that you did not not do your job. If you want to use emotion to explain what kind of nurse you are, then absolutely back it up with facts. "I hold patients hands but am able to get all of my charting done and get out on time as evidenced by my charts and time cards.'

    When starting other nurses IVs did that put you behind? I am sure it allowed that nurse to get out faster, so she looked good, but what about you. TAKE care of yourself.
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    Quote from ShillaBSN
    California2, I really hope you have the evidence to prove this. To think that this kind of bullying and retaliation is going on is beyond sad and absolutely frustrating. Politics are a ***** to say the least.

    My point in displaying the emotional items in the thread was to show what can be used against you....if management is this reactionary they will think nothing of twisting all of your caring words into ways that you did not not do your job. If you want to use emotion to explain what kind of nurse you are, then absolutely back it up with facts. "I hold patients hands but am able to get all of my charting done and get out on time as evidenced by my charts and time cards.'

    When starting other nurses IVs did that put you behind? I am sure it allowed that nurse to get out faster, so she looked good, but what about you. TAKE care of yourself.
    Thanks for your post. You're right, management has twisted alot of my words in order to support their actions, that's why I'm in this boat. I have not rec'd my letter of no-reinstatement yuet but I fully expect a no-reinstatement decision. I am in the beginning stages of getting legal advice now, and am advised that my scenario is not that uncommon these days, unfortunately. I wonder if other nurses fight back, as I am, not to get their job back but as a matter of principle.
    As far as your last comment, when I was asked to start a difficult IV for example, I would have that nurse do a favor for me as well, so that I could also get out on time, and I rec'd many written commendations from peers for this help. I did and DO take care of myself.
    BTW, I don't miss that place AT ALL. Enjoying this time off with my family and already have job prospects thru friends that quit working at this place years ago (bc of management). For now, taking time off, taking it one day at a time.
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    Keep up the fight. I was terminated unjustly from my previous employer. I went all the way through an arbitration and was found I was unjustly terminated and was fully reinstated and awarded everything I lost, pay, PTO, pension,etc. it took 1 year and 4 months for a decision. Now the hospital has now taken 4 months and counting to pay me what they owe me. Still a work in progress.

    Just keep hope but do move on to better pastures.
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    Quote from sjerseymom
    Keep up the fight. I was terminated unjustly from my previous employer. I went all the way through an arbitration and was found I was unjustly terminated and was fully reinstated and awarded everything I lost, pay, PTO, pension,etc. it took 1 year and 4 months for a decision. Now the hospital has now taken 4 months and counting to pay me what they owe me. Still a work in progress.

    Just keep hope but do move on to better pastures.

    thank you so much for your post. I am in the process of talking to an employment law attorney now. I'm glad you won everything they owed you and not surprised they have taken over 4 months to pay you back. It helps alot knowing I am not the only one who has ever gone through this.
    Really appreciate your comments and I will move on to better pastures :-)


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