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With more than 3,000,000 nurses, yes that is 3 MILLION PLUS nurses in the US why aren't we ruling? Just think if every nurse emailed their representatives in government and told them to stop trying... Read More

  1. Visit  everwonder_y profile page
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    Quote from alpha omega
    If people aren’t using contraceptives now, which are free (under title x and other programs) or cheap, as I explained before, what makes you think they’ll use them if the hhs mandate goes through?
    The HHS preventive care provisions is based in value-based insurance design. That is that high value services like cancer screenings, immunizations, family planning, cholesterol and hypertension screenings, etc, services that prevent more costly treatments should be covered with no cost-sharing.

    Preventive Care Provisions under the PPACA

    Contraceptives are getting the most exposure, but the preventive care provisions include a lot more than that.

    Health insurers are on board because it levels the playing field so to speak. In the US most people change insurance companies every 2-5 years, there is little incentive for insurers to encourage cost-saving preventive care where the benefit is likely realized years later by another company. This way people can hop around from company to company but still be guaranteed the same access to preventive care and all insurance companies realize the benefit.

    Assessing the Evidence of Value-Based Insurance Design
    Last edit by everwonder_y on Apr 23, '12 : Reason: fixed links
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    There is a difference between professional ethics and moral ethics. Professional ethics are the way a particular profession carries out its mission. Moral ethics are based in natural law.


    I totally understand recognizing the futility of recussitating an 18weeker or heroic measures to a person with a terminal illness. But there are different levels of wrongness. The heroic measures you mentioned aren’t designed to kill, but to attempt to save life. It may be futile, but it’s still directed at livesaving.


    On the other hand in the abortifacient devices that would be mandated under hhs are aimed at taking life.


    According to the National Conference of State Legislatures website (2012), 28 states have contraceptive mandates. 20 of them have appeals processes for faith-based institutions to be exempt from these mandates. 8 states have no apparent appeals process.


    Again, the HHS mandate is about an attempt to dismantle the First Amendment. Forcing health care providers to participate in actions against their conscience is a major overreach for the Federal Government. It is not a referendum on any particular religion’s teachings.


    PS. Erm, fear is an emotion (as in “you’re scaring me”). Therefore, that was an emotional appeal. And yes the remark about God tapping somebody on the shoulder is definitely snide.
  3. Visit  MunoRN profile page
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    Quote from alpha omega
    There is a difference between professional ethics and moral ethics. Professional ethics are the way a particular profession carries out its mission. Moral ethics are based in natural law.
    You lost me with the "professional" vs "moral" ethics comparison. Both professional and personal ethics have a basis in morals, which in turn are based in natural law and other principles. Personal ethics come from ones own morals, while professional ethics must consider and incorporate the morals and ethics of others.
    Quote from alpha omega
    I totally understand recognizing the futility of recussitating an 18weeker or heroic measures to a person with a terminal illness. But there are different levels of wrongness. The heroic measures you mentioned aren't designed to kill, but to attempt to save life. It may be futile, but it's still directed at livesaving.
    By definition, if it's futile then it's not directed at lifesaving.
    Quote from alpha omega
    On the other hand in the abortifacient devices that would be mandated under hhs are aimed at taking life.
    Perhaps you could clarify this.
    Quote from alpha omega
    According to the National Conference of State Legislatures website (2012), 28 states have contraceptive mandates. 20 of them have appeals processes for faith-based institutions to be exempt from these mandates. 8 states have no apparent appeals process.
    Again, the HHS mandate is about an attempt to dismantle the First Amendment. Forcing health care providers to participate in actions against their conscience is a major overreach for the Federal Government. It is not a referendum on any particular religion's teachings.
    PPACA makes no requirements of health care providers to prescribe contraception, only for insurers to cover preventative care, which includes contraception, without a surcharge.
    PPACA does not inhibit a person's ability to practice their religion. I think people forget that preserving someone's right not to practice your religion is also freedom of religion.
    In terms of "forcing health care providers to participate in actions against their conscience", welcome to healthcare, I participate in care that goes against my conscience nearly daily.
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  4. Visit  subee profile page
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    Alpha Omega: How many unwanted babies have you adopted? It's easy to talk, another thing to take action. What have you personally done for these children? What you DO is what counts...not what you THINK.
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