Anyone ever get their license back after revocation? - page 8

by Morganslake

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OK, hope I'm doing this right. Now that I have some clean time, I am considering getting my nursing license back. I have no idea how to go about this. I "failed" IPN (FL) in 2002, :dance:-that was my last year of practice as... Read More


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    Jerry Garcia said it best: "Sometimes the lights all shinin' on me; other times I can barely see; lately it occurs to me; what a long, strange trip it's been.

    Speaking as a card carrying tightwad, never to waste money on unneeded travel, I'd still go to the BON meeting. (The following is NOT to be construed as legal advice). You will be able to find out exactly where you stand with the BON. Specifically, the aforementioned new law, where you stand with IPN, and if you need the refresher.

    Most importantly, if the new law does apply to you and unequivocally prevents your license reinstatement for another three years, you will be able to withdraw your application to prevent having it denied. That denial would create another negative public record, and might make later reinstatement or licensure in another state more difficult. Did I say I wasn't a lawyer?

    Smitty
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    Quote from dph1965
    Then, why would the BON in FL send me a letter just 5 days ago, asking me to appear Oct.8 in Kissimmee for a hearing for re-instatement? I'm not doubting your info, and there WAS an "official" notice posted on the FL doh/MQA website (where you go to check app status, etc.) stating this new law takes place 7/09 etc. However, on this website, it states the doh will refuse to issue or renew a license "... if the applicant, on or after 7/1/09 has been 1)convicted of or plead guilty or nolo contendre..." so the wording is weird, I just assumed it was if the conviction or plea HAPPENED after 7/1/09?!?!? I have another call into the board to clear this up. Maybe I'm just overly hopeful or stupid, but I sure hope you are wrong! I have a plane ticket!!

    having your lis. revocation, and a conviction can be two different things...... if your lis. was discpl. and revoked, without criminal charges, and conviction....... no conviction record.
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    Dear Morganslake, I am in a similar situation. My license is nul and void but I did not surrender it.
    I just decided to quit all together without telling them anything. As a result, my license is nul and void since 2002.
    Recently I posted on IPN forum and ask the same question that you asked.
    And I got 2 responses. Thank you Linda and Mary if you reading this post!!
    They told me to approach the Board (I am in Florida) and ask them what do I need to do.
    I did and they referred me to IPN. I contacted IPN, they presented my case to the clinical committee and I got a call in the day that she told me she'll call me.
    Here is the catch. IPN will not give me a contract until the Board is willing to issue me a license.
    The Board is not willing to give me a license until IPN gives me a contract.
    But IPN did not deny me, they basically said that they are waiting for the Board to make the first move.
    The response that I got from the Board is that I must apply again as I would be a new nurse. I can apply by endorsement since I took the board and passed in California. After they receive the application, they will review it in a committee, and give the result after.
    Furthermore, the lady from the Boar told me that since I was out of work for more than 5 years, I probably have to take a remedial course and she sent me the list of approved sites.
    I am scared too. I have been clean since July 31, 2001 at 1 pm. I have a good carrer in education, teaching Medical Assistant program, and I am a CPR Instructor. I make a decent living, but nursing is tugging at my heart.
    I don't want to necessarily go to bed side, but I can pursue so many avenues that I am aware of and I can;t do it because I don't have a license.
    Anyway, I hope this helps!
    Ariel
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    Dear FLSmitty! Thank you for your help. I AM ADDRESSING THE NON LAWYER PERSON WHO IS IN NO WAY GIVING ME LEGAL ADVICE, ahem. (in case anyone's listening!) I thing that's the way I'm leaning. I gave up SO many years ago, trying to do things the IPN/12 step way, but since I wasn't buying any of the "let go and let god" and other #$@! (sorry, I don't mean to insult anyone, I just feel there are more ways than THE way to get sober and real - I'm living proof) and that's the ONLY way as far as IPN is concerned. I've gotten a little more mature, wiser, fatter etc. in the last 12 yrs and I know I'm clean, so no matter what IPN or anyone else wants me to do to prove it is OK. I'm sure I'll end up broke (er) in the short run, but hopefully it will pay off in the long. Either way, I'll know where I stand and can get on with becoming a nurse again or finding a different path. Phone sex and dog walking are other options I'm considering! (kidding, please!) I'm a pretty smart girl (now) and will figure it out, but you are right, I need to know where I stand in all this. Who knows, maybe the law will get the axe or be amended ( I DID write the FL Congress, Gov and Pres. Obama) and I'll be ready if it is! Thank you again for all your wisdom.
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    Quote from dph1965
    Dear FLSmitty! Thank you for your help. I AM ADDRESSING THE NON LAWYER PERSON WHO IS IN NO WAY GIVING ME LEGAL ADVICE, ahem. (in case anyone's listening!) I thing that's the way I'm leaning. I gave up SO many years ago, trying to do things the IPN/12 step way, but since I wasn't buying any of the "let go and let god" and other #$@! (sorry, I don't mean to insult anyone, I just feel there are more ways than THE way to get sober and real - I'm living proof) and that's the ONLY way as far as IPN is concerned. I've gotten a little more mature, wiser, fatter etc. in the last 12 yrs and I know I'm clean, so no matter what IPN or anyone else wants me to do to prove it is OK. I'm sure I'll end up broke (er) in the short run, but hopefully it will pay off in the long. Either way, I'll know where I stand and can get on with becoming a nurse again or finding a different path. Phone sex and dog walking are other options I'm considering! (kidding, please!) I'm a pretty smart girl (now) and will figure it out, but you are right, I need to know where I stand in all this. Who knows, maybe the law will get the axe or be amended ( I DID write the FL Congress, Gov and Pres. Obama) and I'll be ready if it is! Thank you again for all your wisdom.

    ok, for starters.....1) no 12step/IPN are not the only ways to get clean & sober, but unfortunately they have the most demonstrated success, and they offer something else that tends to "attract ALL state boards" they can and do provide documentation. I resent being told that I must attend 2 twelve step meetings a week with over 22yrs. sobriety, but it provides documentation to my BON stipulations that "I am working a program." I have not been to a meeting in decades for my personal sobriety.... but I am grateful, that I have been able to help some who may of benefitted from my successes and failures. When BONs look at "the big picture" they are not interested in weather we have sacrificed, did what ever we have done to get better, they are interested in "protecting the public, which is their legal requirement by the state governments" That being said, the stipulations, requirements etc. they give us and IPNs give us, have to be ones with the "most measured success." When one gets their lis. back the BON is "gambling" that we are better, will stay better, and not make the same mistakes etc. again. They, the scientific and medical communities, have seen the greatest success from 12 step programs. I have worked professionaly in addiction, and that is just the facts. I do not like them when they pertain to me, but I do not have to like them, darn it, I just gotta do it....good luck to all, I do promise it gets better !!!
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    OMGoodness..I never, never write on these "threads" or "blogs" whatever the heck... but for today.
    I totally get that the "BON", no matter the state.. is all about protecting the public and understandably so.
    What I don't understand is the broadbrush approach to this whole issue.. While I agree with, you're either
    sober or your not.. there are varying degrees to everything including addiction and undeniably more than
    one way to approach wellness. Those who do the work, will get well, no matter. It's grossly unfortunate
    that it's with discouragement rather than encouragement from "our colleagues". Should be a pre-req. before you can be associated with BON .. you must be in recovery. Perhaps then we'll see some empathy or compassion.
    Tough enough row to hoe without thia added BS.

    Be True To You!
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    Quote from doolot
    OMGoodness..I never, never write on these "threads" or "blogs" whatever the heck... but for today.
    I totally get that the "BON", no matter the state.. is all about protecting the public and understandably so.
    What I don't understand is the broadbrush approach to this whole issue.. While I agree with, you're either
    sober or your not.. there are varying degrees to everything including addiction and undeniably more than
    one way to approach wellness. Those who do the work, will get well, no matter. It's grossly unfortunate
    that it's with discouragement rather than encouragement from "our colleagues". Should be a pre-req. before you can be associated with BON .. you must be in recovery. Perhaps then we'll see some empathy or compassion.
    Tough enough row to hoe without thia added BS.

    Be True To You!
    That's very perceptive, doolot! The "broad brush approach" kicks to the curb many that might otherwise succeed.

    Until there is a sea change in addiction treatment generally, and in the BON's approach specifically, those of us
    that wish to continue the practice of nursing are forced to submit or hit the road.

    Smitty
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    yes, lately it occurs to me as well...what a long strange trip its been! i havent posted in awhile so let let me update all you beautiful nursey-poos where I'm at on my journey: my journey has come to a screaching halt as to not being able to secure employment as an LPN. history: voluntarily surrendered license in 2003, finally quit using in 2005, got recovery, applied for re-instatement 4 years later in 2009, did the psych eval, LPN refresher course, Got myself off the OIG list, got a fingerprint clearance card, have on - going random U/A's, go to 12 step meetings, got license back BUT...with restrictions and a 3 year probation - RN supervision, 6 month narcotic distribution restriction (to commence upon hiring) and a.m. hrs. of work only. so...where I'm at now is having a hard time getting hired as a med nurse who can't pass meds. I've tried a doctor's offices, treatment centers, LTC homes, detention centers, adult day cares...if anyone has a brainiac idea (other than hitting my knees on a daily basis and praying my little heart out) please speak up! I have been batteling depression as a result of this wall I'm up against, trying to remain optimistic but its hard, especially with the economy and all...and especially when I'm in competition with the nurse that is purer than the white driven snow who has never had to suffer from addiction. I know God is still in the miracle business so I best just get out of the way and let him do his thing. but hurry up already!!! please...
    Last edit by gr8fulnrs on Nov 6, '09 : Reason: forgot some words
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    Praying might help a little.. but hitting the pavement will help the most. Hit the ground running. Keep going and going and going on interviews. Go even to the interviews where you know you won't get hired.

    Look at all the hoops you have jumped through! You can't give up now,, heck, this is the easy part. Get pretty everyday and get out there... or else, what is it all for??
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    Quote from gr8fulnrs
    yes, lately it occurs to me as well...what a long strange trip its been! i havent posted in awhile so let let me update all you beautiful nursey-poos where I'm at on my journey: my journey has come to a screaching halt as to not being able to secure employment as an LPN. history: voluntarily surrendered license in 2003, finally quit using in 2005, got recovery, applied for re-instatement 4 years later in 2009, did the psych eval, LPN refresher course, Got myself off the OIG list, got a fingerprint clearance card, have on - going random U/A's, go to 12 step meetings, got license back BUT...with restrictions and a 3 year probation - RN supervision, 6 month narcotic distribution restriction (to commence upon hiring) and a.m. hrs. of work only. so...where I'm at now is having a hard time getting hired as a med nurse who can't pass meds. I've tried a doctor's offices, treatment centers, LTC homes, detention centers, adult day cares...if anyone has a brainiac idea (other than hitting my knees on a daily basis and praying my little heart out) please speak up! I have been batteling depression as a result of this wall I'm up against, trying to remain optimistic but its hard, especially with the economy and all...and especially when I'm in competition with the nurse that is purer than the white driven snow who has never had to suffer from addiction. I know God is still in the miracle business so I best just get out of the way and let him do his thing. but hurry up already!!! please...
    Make yourself marketable, I do not know which state you are in, but get RUGs certified for LTC nursing homes, and MDS profecient, MDS and RUGs reports are the specialized reports that have to be transmitted to CMS Medicare and Medicaid..... for nursing homes to get paid It is usually a M-f job, and MDS/Rugs nurses get paid a higher wage than other LVNs in a nursing home, cause you be the money nurse... Hey it is a way to work off the stipulations, and 3 yr. probation... I only have 5 more months to go........ you can find out abut the above at CMS or DADs websites....... look up MDS/Rugs on the "net" We get Rugs certifies in Texas at Texas Tech. SanMarcus online...... something like $35-40.00. These MDS/Rugs reports are very similar to the OASIS that home health has to submit. Good luck, you can do it. !!!
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