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I was eligible to sit for the nclex for California.

Wow.. so I took my exam this September, went the distance all 265 questions. Unfortunately I didn't pass. Got my results and "near passing standard" all across the board so the news of failure basically tore me apart.

Now what makes it worse is after submitting the reapplication form and waiting for four weeks for a reply from the board, I get a letter today stating

:::: The Board has determined that the program you completed in the Philippines is not equivalent to the minimum requirements for licensure set forth in California Code Section 1426(d).

You may be able to view Section 1426 (d) and all other codes of the California Code of Regulations by going to our website at: www.rn.ca.gov. Once in the website there will be 'Tabs' at the top of the screen. Go to Regulations then to Nursing Practice Act and finally to California Code of Regulations.

California Code of Regulations Section 1426(d) states that theory and clinical practice shall be concurrent. The documents received state that some of the training was completed several semesters after the theory classes. ::::::

I email the evaluator in charge of my application and she explains ::::

You have options and that is to apply to the LVN Board or in another RN Board in a different state or go for your master's degree in nursing but in California you are not qualified as a RN without the Master's degree.

According to the RLE and the school's curriculum you should have completed the scrubs in NCM 101 and 102 but they were completed in NCM 104, 105 and 103. I am enclosing a copy of the letter that was sent to you yesterday.

I'm angry and sad at the same time. How is it possible that I was eligible to take the nclex the first time I applied and not eligible to retake now? I went from meeting the requirements of an RN to now meeting the requirements of an LVN. How is this possible?

They are saying I'm ineligible based on the dates of completion of my cases. The school requires 5 major, 5 minor, 5 assisted delivery, 5 actual delivery, and 5 cord dressing clinical cases which I completed or else I wouldn't have been able to graduate. All of a sudden Ca board is being technical about the completion dates of these cases. The school is well aware of the fact that completion of these cases is impossible to be concurrent with the theoretical classes. It is not always guaranteed that students will complete the needed cases in concurrent with the theoretical because there are times when there aren't any patients in the hospitals that we are rotated in. It is for this reason that the school allows completion of the needed cases through out the following semesters. We took the theoretical classes before we were allowed to go on our clinicals but the lack of patients made it difficult to complete those 5 cases during that semester. That's why some of my cases were completed one or two semesters after the theory classes.

Am I understanding this correctly? I thought all that matters was that my cases were complete regardless if it was completed in concurrent/along with theoretical or after theoretical. I learned what I was suppose to learn it just so happen that exposure to the actual thing came a semester later.

So now they are saying I can't sit for the nclex in California and I need to complete a masters degree to be qualified as an Rn in California. Is this possible? I went to school graduated with a BSN and in the end I'm told that I only qualify to be a LVN after submitting a reapplication for nclex. .

Clarification would be nice and I would appreciate any advice. This just makes me question if nursing is even the right fit for me cause it's been obstacles after obstacles.

My classmate took her NCLEX for the 2nd time last week and she passed. She was issued an RN license. Where's the consistency??? Isn't it so UNFAIR???

hi, when did your classmate file an application for eligibility? is she now living in california and is it her first time to apply? thanks.....

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There's no better person to give to the CA BON as a reference point other than your friend that just passed the NCLEX, like what belagee12 is doing.

Get your friend's name and her license number, it's all public record and do it on-line. Tell your contact person at the CA BON via e-mail and a phone call (if you can get her in person or leave a message).

Your own friend has the same exact courses, same school, same everything, and belagee12's friend is probably from a different school, different courses and then your case presentation will be different.

Maybe you can just e-mail your analyst rather than go thru the re-application process and no need to spend more money.

hi benny, do you know somebody who did used this reference point and was able to get an approval /eligibilty from the BON? just curious....i am just worried that this may insult them or the more that they will hold your application....you know how some people react... ;(

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We're at the same situation, they questioned evrything that i sent including sequence of my course & now my clinical cases wherein i graduated 2006 & i know they are just requiring for those graduates starting 2008. I'm an RN also in the phils. but it doesn't matter.

are you now here in CA?

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She applied last 2010 for eligibility and took the exam 2011 but she failed. She got her 2nd ATT last jan. 2012 and took the NCLEX this month and passed. She's here in CA and got her license.

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hi benny, do you know somebody who did used this reference point and was able to get an approval /eligibilty from the BON? just curious....i am just worried that this may insult them or the more that they will hold your application....you know how some people react... ;(

Hi, there: No, I don't have any personal references, but there are at least two recent posters here that do: belagee12 and dayz13. They both have the perfect referrals or case to present to the CA BON for possible re-consideration of their denied applications.

Both have stated they have the same classmates, respective of their schools, however, and probably not from the same nursing college, so given that belagee and dayz13's known classmate's were denied, failed the NCLEX, but able to get another chance and passed and now RN's, it's possible either they got lucky or simply were in fact, qualified in the first place, although, it seems from their own admissions, they did not meet whatever their particular deficiencies were. It doesn't matter at this point, the two applicants have their CA license.

It does remain to be seen what might happen come renewal time in a few years, but that's neither here or there for now.

Others here will not be able to use or claim either belagee12 or dayz13's classmate's or their friend's RN license name/number to be used as a reference point, unless they were also from the same exact college, took the same courses together, studied together and graduated in the same class. Since each college is independent of each other (different instructors, different clinicals, different in most cases).

As far as insulting them, I don't think the CA BON reviewer will mind and may in fact, if they did incorrectly denied someone that was given a chance, I think they would feel guilty and sorry. With that same thought, I don't think they will uphold the application, but may in fact, make them more aware of their own errors. I don't feel any of the reviewers will hold a grudge for any applicants that should be qualified.

But you know what? If belagee12 and days13 don't try, then they will never know if they could have been CA RN's, if they do try and still get denied for whatever reasons, at least they won't be thinking..."I should have, I could have, I might have" for the rest of their nursing careers. It's really up to both individuals to make their own decisions to mention their friend's getting their ATT. Who knows, it just might be what's needed in some cases, not all, for those to finally break thru the ATT wall. Good luck to all!

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i have the same problem too. i'm a graduate of 2011, then we moved in CA. i applied for NCLEX in july 2011 and sad to know that i wasn't able to sit for the exam because of the concurrency issue. i talked to my analyst just to clarify things that i can hardly understand. and i end up telling her that i know someone who graduated from the Phil was able to sit for the exam with not having problems at all, same curriculum and she applied 2011. i submitted all the requirements but the letter i received was hopeless. my analyst told me that it depends on the situation. i've read some threads here that other applicants got their ATT because they sent an explanation letter from their school regarding the concurrency issue. i asked my analyst if they would give me the eligibility to take the exam if i'd do the same thing. she said it's a case-to-case basis. but as for now, she advised me to go to school here in CA to make up for my deficiencies. still, i wasn't satisfied with what i've got from them. i am hopeless for submitting my requirements and got nothing from them. i've wasted enough time and money. for those applicants who had this issue and got their ATT, did you guys go to school or something? i badly need your reply. thanks!

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i just looked up her RN license number, thanks for the advice, anything is worth a shot at this point :) i'm just praying and hoping it'll work

hi belagee12! how was your application? did you get your ATT yet? cause im having the same problem too.

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The concurency issues started on the ber months of last year. so those who got their eligibility to take the nclex before that if they pass they will get their licences.

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i have the same problem too. i'm a graduate of 2011, then we moved in CA. i applied for NCLEX in july 2011 and sad to know that i wasn't able to sit for the exam because of the concurrency issue. i talked to my analyst just to clarify things that i can hardly understand. and i end up telling her that i know someone who graduated from the Phil was able to sit for the exam with not having problems at all, same curriculum and she applied 2011. i submitted all the requirements but the letter i received was hopeless. my analyst told me that it depends on the situation. i've read some threads here that other applicants got their ATT because they sent an explanation letter from their school regarding the concurrency issue. i asked my analyst if they would give me the eligibility to take the exam if i'd do the same thing. she said it's a case-to-case basis. but as for now, she advised me to go to school here in CA to make up for my deficiencies. still, i wasn't satisfied with what i've got from them. i am hopeless for submitting my requirements and got nothing from them. i've wasted enough time and money. for those applicants who had this issue and got their ATT, did you guys go to school or something? i badly need your reply. thanks!

You see here's another case of knowing someone from the exact same school and courses taken and was able to get their ATT. This is your best source that's exclusive to you alone, the person you know is the one straight link you have to CA BON as they have passed thru the screening process and made it!

I would definitely get in contact with this person you know, you can get their name and maybe even better, their RN license and go to CA BON's site, see the name listed and go from there. You must have other friends or someway to get in contact with this person. This is your key to get the door to open.

This could be the one and most possible way to not have to enroll in a CA school and spent more time and money when it's right here in front of you. Granted, CA BON may still review on a case-by-case basis, but it's better than try this route than to say it's not worth it, when you haven't even tried. At this point, with the current processing issues, current job market, etc, you need to get to the top of the pile somehow, someway. Good luck!

Keep us posted.

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In order to get an att you have to register first in pearson vue. And inorder for you to register you must have an eligibility from the CABON. And in order for you to get your eligibility you must pass all the CABON requirements especially the concurrency Issues which is for me impossibe if you graduated in the philippines.

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hello do you have any idea if board of michigan is strict??and how many months before they give eligibility? thank you....

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Sorry i have no idea.

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