NPs practicing as DRs

[SkiBumNP]

This has been a heated discussion between some of my friends and I, so I thought I would bring it to the forum.

Should people who are going through a DNP programs and taking the SAME test we all took for our MSN - NP for national certification think their education 'doctorate" is a clinical doctorate?

Until there is a national standard and an elevation of the test (think along the USMLE) then I think anyone who thinks their DNP is a clinical doctorate is a joke.

your thoughts. . . . .?

[BlueDevil,DNP, DNP, RN]

I don't know. She feels she got a good education there and has nothing negative to say about it. I can only confirm that she knows her material and skills and is a very good provider. She used to tell me what I fool I was for going to Duke when U of P is available. As I said, I think she is an obnoxious female dog and I don't like her, I just have to admit she appears to have gotten a satisfactory education. Tinkernurse has since clarified his/her post, so it is moot anyway.

[shannic99]

I am currently completing my practicum, having previously completed all academic MSN coursework, and plan to begin DNP program Spring 2013. Oh- AND I live in Mississippi.

I find it laughable that some physicians are fervently opposing the use of "Dr" by NPs who hold a DOCTORATE degree, when many patients of NPs refer to their MASTERs prepared healthcare provider as "doctor!" Especially in poor rural areas here in Mississippi, where the white coat and prescription pad are what defines their healthcare professional. Some not understanding the difference, and some not recognizing the difference- "doctor" is commonly used as a title of respect by the patient even after being corrected. So to the AMA and State of MS I bow my head and say "Yes Sir, Yes Ma'am" before I rush off to my 2:30 DOCTOR's appt with N. Smith NP.....Y'all have a nice afternoon!

[lynnaprn]

Doctors do not own "Dr.". They own physician. There are doctors of philosophy, english, anthropology....and nursing. If you have a DNP, you have earned the title "Dr.". Not physician.

[nursegirl2001]

Ohhhh I love it !!!!!!!!!!! Oh how I love this post !!!!!!!!!!!!! ........ ... :loveya: ...

[nursegirl2001]

LynnAPRN

Excellent post !!!!! Physicians are threatened by the hard and effective work that advanced practice nurses are achieving. Too bad !!! We have a job to do and we are doing it well !!!! I for one, have no desire or the financial aid for that matter, to obtain a DNP nor do I have the time to pursue one as I want to get out and practice in the ARNP role. I have children to raise and bills to pay so I can't afford to get a nursing doctorate. I sure wished I could though as this would make doctors pretty aggravated !!!!! :cheers: ... :w00t: ...

[Psychcns]

I read somewhere that physicians got all their power because early on they enacted legislation in every state to protect their practice. They did everything (medicine and surgery) and it was illegal for anyone to infringe on their area which was everything. Perhaps someone else read this paper and can add to this..

[Sugah Britches]

Doctor originates from the latin and is an agentive noun meaning to teach. Orginally it was used by the church to denote the Apostles. Physicians confiscated the title Dr from academia to give more credence to their profession, I guess Mister was not prestigious enough. I once got into a discussion with a rather indignant ER MD who was rather vocal about other healthcare professionals who are not "real" doctors using the title Dr in the hospital setting, stating it is confusing to the patients.. my retort was, Well I certainly hope you do not use the title Dr "outside" of the hospital, I would hate for you to confuse all those University students into thinking you are a "real" professor.