Hospital bullying? - page 2

by Phlebandcma2rn

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I am a waitlisted nursing student working as a phlebotomist. I achieved my CMA waiting to get into nursing school and also gained 2 years of in home caregiving experience. Since working in the hospital environment I have... Read More


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    Quote from Phlebandcma2rn
    Thats my question..whats the use in working hard to learn technical nursing skills when at any moment an angry patient can perhaps bruise excessively bc their vein blew or they didnt want their blood drawn again or do not like the "pain" of a tourniquet around their arm and complain and administration fears lowered ganey scores and fire you? Or a staff member doesnt like you and just makes things up about you. And administration just rolls with it. Is his really so commonplace?
    I LOVE when people tell me these sidewalk stories about getting stuck and "OMG SHE PUT THIS HUGE BRUISE ON MY ARM." I always say "OH MY GOSH, DID IT GO AWAY IN A FEW DAYS?" lol seriously shut up laypeople.

    Oh and pumping the breast milk, cervical dilation stats and baby-go-potty stories, all things I could really do without. Don't want to hear it from my friends, surely don't care about it with my coworkers.
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    Oh my could I tell you some stories on this subject. Have no fear there is a silver lining!. I am an LVN for 35 yrs. Approx. 30 yrs were spent in the hospitals at various times. I have done traveling along with Home Agency since 1995. Many Hospitals in and out of State. Of course Many times we did our own labs. I always love it when Lab comes. One thing I will say from "Back then to now", nurses are some of the most cut throat professionals there are. Now please do not take that literally as there are so many wonderful co workers. But like any profession a few make up for the many. One of these comments about administration was right on target. Most will take up for their nurses unless it become a big problem. One thing you must never let get to you is when you bruise a Pt. There are so many reasons for this. Never put the blame on one person unless that person puts bruises on all of her lab draws. I would consider myself an good IV starter. Most of my career a great starter. I will give myself a little leeway as I have not started any since spring of 2011. With all my yrs of doing so I will only get a little slower or cautious not out of practice. I also do great lab draws. I have done Home Health for several yrs on top of hospital and get called for many difficult Pt even to this day. If I counted the people I bruised over 25 yrs(actually IV starts) I could have a nice dinner. I have even left a tourniquet or 10 in the bed. I have found them in the bed and simply throw them away. We all know certain Medications make them more susceptible. Off subject for a min. At 10 I had a facial cyst removed. 11 Sticks later I made the Dr come and do it. He took 1. Why is that. I am sure they were all great stickers!. There doesn't have to be an answer. My very experienced advice is to always be extra kind to your Pts(There are many hateful Pts out there in the world). Maybe hold the pressure on for another 30/60 secs. Ask them if they bruise easy(general info). Pay attention to the overall skin! Say something nice to every nurse you meet.(Have a great shift) I love your uniform(if worthy)Play the game. When you find another job The kindness they show you right away will be the tell tale of how it will progress. If you get a not so friendly nurse be extra kind to her. Let then know at the desk to call if they need anything. Nurses are like kindergarten children. If they think they can get praise they will tattle on you. Never forget that! Continue doing what you want to do and the way you do it. You will find a good home one day............Dallas
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    Lateral violence is every where. I was a victim long before the term was coined. As nursing becomes more stressful, it will only increase.

    In my case.. I was charge nurse for years on the day shift. I even won a system wide yearly award for excellence in leadership.
    I went on the afternoon shift. Three months later, a particularly nasty bunch of nurses got together, made up a bunch of lies and I was in the directors office trying to answer them.
    It turned out to be a positive, I got the h*ll out of there ... and have had fantastic experiences since.

    There really is no answer to your question. It would depend on the luck of the draw regarding where you end up practicing.

    You've suffered enough. Use the empathy you have gained and direct it towards another field.

    Good luck.
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    I had called in my availability and am waiting assignment at another hospital. Since this healthcare network is the largest in the state. However, its not sitting right with me and I do not feel protected from this being able to happen again. Not only were the "bruising" complaints worrisome but accusing me of yelling at patients too. Quite ludicrous. Since I am also a CMA and have not been able to find back office work in the state due to lack of two to three years of experience which is literally a requirement on all job ads. I have looked out of state too. I did get a job referral out of state and think its best to pursue that while I wait to be called to start RN school since Im waitlisted. I decided for now that I do want to continue pursuing nuRsing and perhaps will have the opportunity to stay away from the hospital? Or as I advance to NP or informatics can gain even better insights of how to avoid these situations? I had been a caregiver in the past and was thinking surely these dramas dont go on with home health??
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    Quote from redhead_NURSE98!
    I LOVE when people tell me these sidewalk stories about getting stuck and "OMG SHE PUT THIS HUGE BRUISE ON MY ARM." I always say "OH MY GOSH, DID IT GO AWAY IN A FEW DAYS?" lol seriously shut up laypeople. Oh and pumping the breast milk, cervical dilation stats and baby-go-potty stories, all things I could really do without. Don't want to hear it from my friends, surely don't care about it with my coworkers.
    . Exactly! I would be drawing a patient and literally be quiet with them concentrating while switching tubes and begin to overhear these coversations about inappropriate topics, their butt size, birth control methods, etc. discussed by my co-workers on the other side of the curtain/wall and try to start talking about anything just in case the patient heard them..hoping they didnt. :/
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    Should I try to get more clarity from supervisor about complaints even though I knowmthere is no truth in them? Since I was only given brief generalities about the complaints and then asked my side? I had no idea there was a problem until Imwas notified there were multiple complaints allmof a sudden in one night bear in mnd.
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    My first job out of nursing school was one that I totally loved. However, a new nurse manager changed all of that. From the beginning, she saw me as a threat to her authority (why, I have no idea to this day), and she set out to get rid of me. She confronted me with a number of allegations. Most of them were fabricated by staff she had cultivated to work against me, and the remainder were very minor issues I had resolved with the previous nurse manager long before. Her intent was clear, however, and I took the opportunity to move on (I actually relocated to a city I had planned to move to for some time), and my career has gone much farther than it would likely have gone had I stayed put. Some things are blessings in disguise. Getting out of a toxic work environment is one of them, even if it wasn't your idea.

    One suggestion: Don't invest a lot of energy trying to figure out what went wrong in your previous job. From the sound of it, you went into a place with a well-established clique and you weren't part of it. It happens. Learn from it and move on.
    Last edit by Orca on Jul 30, '12
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