What do new RN-BSN grads make in NJ?

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just wondering what nurses make in NJ?

I took a temporary federal position- after to numerous to count applications and 1 interview, with bills to pay, I decided I better take it.And after filling out several more applications looking for the pay I should be making even though I still have the temp position, I have not received any interviews. They do donot want to hire nurses with 30 years experience!! Because they have to pay us. I'd love to know where these $39 and $44/hr per deim positions are. I took a per deim position $36/hr no bene's, no diff., in 2008 and got totally screwed 2 yrs later. I was cancelled left and right, sometimes 2 months straight. I had to take a temp full time position( monday- friday, 8-4:30, non clinical, no cancel). Per deim job found out about it. kept calling me when they knew I couldn't come in( yes, they had my schedule from the temp job) and terminated me, by some rotund, color treated highlighted tiped bimbo who was an LPN for 25 yrs and decided she was going back for her RN- ON LINE." Who didn't know you don't give citrus juice to a dialysis patient. BIMBO!!! I was not avail to them"

Nursing does not want older nurses- LOOK at the threads on this website- asking for photos with resume's(since when), cheesy terminations, pushing nurses out of their jobs, early retirement packages.

Nursing is it's own driving force in a nursing shortage- has nothing to do with the economy. Nursing is engineering this and BLAMING the economy to keep the profession from getting the reputation it truely deserves.RUTHLESS. Since when doe one have to be a goo-goo doll to be a nurse. Physical appearance was never a requirement. Now it's right up there with the RN license. Read some of the career advice colums for nursing on how to 'land' a job especially columns aimed at the "mature"nurse in this job market. (add highlight to your hair to brighten your face and make you appear younger, enroll in an excersize clas or a yoga class) Is this nursing we are talking about (wiping butt) or the victoria secret cat walk!! NJ is one of THE WORST- a crappy state, on the verge of bankruptcy because every one who live in this state is rude, sproiled and over indulged, with very catty nurses( as compare to Pa). The best thing to happen for NJ would be a tsunami. It's a crap hole full of idots who forget how to drive when they see 1 flake of snow. Idots who have let CEO's get paid multi milloins while they lay off nurses and the nurses who are still working don't know any better.

wow, sorry you are having such a hard time.

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I am per diem (by choice) and make 39 weekdays and 44 weekends and 10% and 15% differential for evenings and nights.

do you know how long a new grad has to work before going Per Diem ?

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Each hospital and facility differs- it's usually 1-2 yrs before a new grad can go per deim. but as a per diem- you get what you are offered. Look at the ad- "per diems earn UPTO ,,,,,,,. You would have to find out what the bottom pay rate for the per deim position is. You could be a nurse with 1-2 yrs experience, get a per deim position and start at $-$2/hr above a staff position. And in the same insitiution be an 20-30 yr experience nurse getting a per deim and get $39-$44/hr. This is the new wrinkle these healthcare facilities have added to lure per deims- they don't have to pay benefits and the per deim is the first cancelled if the census drops. They keep regular staff working first. You can and most likely will work 1 shift every 2 months- it's a gamble. Then if your the only income source- your screwed. Unemployment pays (in my state0 any worker the max of $600/week which nurses usually get if they have worked a nursing position for the past 20 weeks. But if your per deim- and don't work but 1 shift for those 4 months- your screwed. Oh yeah- if your hospital per deim- they will keep you on the books for 4 months"JUST IN CASE THEY NEED YOU" Believe me- I know!! Get a temp full time job because you have your bills to pay and the per deim position finds out about it- you are screwed- the temp position hrs are the only time you get called for the per deim work- they mess with you and your finances. That per deim position wants you up every day dressed in your uniform hanging by the phone JUST IN CASE THE NEED YOU!!!" Have to pay a traffic ticket- they call. Have to file your income taxes- they suddenly need you after cancelling you for 2 months. Have to go to a child support hearing- they call , they need you. Kid sick in the hospital- they need you. But you could go for months financially drowning, no income- they don't know who you are or your phone #. DO NOT TAKE A PER DEIM POSITION. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt!! Same goes for per deim agency- you are never good enough until you have a full time temp position that you have found on your own. When you call their bluff and submit your "profile" The agency re3sponds- "it's not what the facility is looking for"( mean while you have way more, 30 yrs more experience, then they require)- been that route also. These healthcare insititutions today are CHARLITINES!!!! DIS HONEST.

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Oh and these agencies and hospitals will mess with your unemployment if you are entitled to it. You work only 1 day for them- that's employment!!

Unemployment tax is an insurance tax that the employER pays to the state goverment. From what I heard on C-Span during the committee hearings- the democrates want to raise the employER unemployment insurance premium from $7,500/employEE to $15,000/employEE( it works like car insurance- if an employER lays an employEE off or terminated them through NO FAULT of the employEE's- the employEE gets to collect unemployment. If the employEE collects, the employER's premium increases. If the employER has an accident, the premium increases) That is why nurses are are either fired or forced to resign- that nurse can not collect unemployment. It saves the hospital/facility money. I interpret this increase from $7,500 to $15,000 as the government saying to the employER- stop getting rid of your nurses- it's going to cost you the employER. I was terminated after 2 yrs when my per deim hospital found out about my full time temp position( my temp position was a 940 hr grant funded position and I was planning on my per deim position after the temp position ended. The per deim hospital terminated me 2 weeks before the temp position ended. You better believe I told the state). I saved e-mails to and from the nurse manager , COBRA mailings and all correspondence from that hospital and sent it to the state dept of Labor investigator. I got my unemployment checks!! I look at that proposed raise in the unemployment premium as punnishment for these employERs. With a 9.7% unemployment rate and this crap is being pulled. I think the feds have had enough.

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These healthcare systems need to be taken over by the federal government. It would solve alot of the issues in healthcare.

The derrogatory argument - that the government took over major banks and lending institutions is not telling or reminding the general public- that's why the banks are F.D.I.C- It means when a bank is in trouble, this is insurance that the money you put in that bank is insured so you don't loose it, like people did during the start of the Great Depression. It was instituted so a Great Depression doesn't happen again. If F D I C was not inplace in the summer of 2008 with the Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, AIG, Citicorp- this country would have gone into another depression. The heathcare systems/industry does need the feds to move in on them and stop this crazyiness they are perpetuating. These healthcare institutions are largely responsible for the greed, unemployment, forclosures and poor economic climate of this country. Look at their behavior during all this.( terminations, forced resignations, early retirement ultimatums to their senior nursingstaff work forces) They are no different than old man Maddoff and deserve a cell by him in the federal prison. Healthcare was a major employER in this country. We need a FCIC( federal crisis investigation committee) to examine healthcare systems contribution to the economic crisis. They need their business practices over the past 10 years, their HR policies that have twisted and disregard for the federal employment laws, and their fiscial decisions( all = GREEDY CEO's, Administrators and Nursing Administration) investigated. These people's decisions are responisble for the deaths of millions of people in this country and this is being alluded to in government reports- out of the Health and Human Services when it states-" Millions of preventable deaths."

Lopressor is cheaper than dialysis but dialysis brings the healthcare systems more reinbursement(MOOLAH) than lopressor. These CEO's are mentally ill people.

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ummm.... wow...tough times.... makes me wantto move to florida

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Florida is no haven either. Lots of nurse out of work down there and some of the ones who have jobs- are being treated like garbage. Read some of these threads from the nurse in Florida- their not to pleased either. The hospitaln administration greed epidemic is all over the US. Id love to know how many American nurses have left and gone to other countries.

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Nicole74-"How can you be working in the field making $26,75..." I think that question is better answered by all the Nurse Managers reading these posts and a CEO (one of many) from a small NJ speciality hospital whose initals are JE. "Who retired after 40 yrs of service" wasn't that nice that turd got to retire after 40 yrs., after he kicked out numbers of senior nurses from that hospital. I'm sure they can all come up with some BS.

THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY/EMPLOY NURSES WITH EXPERIENCE OVER A CERTAIN LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE!!! This is called setting a precedent. This is laying down the limits of income.

If something is not done about this now - see what all of you will have to look forward to in the future. This is the economy being blamed to manipulate the nursing salaries. Do you honestly think they are going to let you young nurses starting out at 25-26/hr and continue to get raises to equivilent what us older nurses progressed at and to? We started out at $9-12/hr in 1980. Your dreaming?

If this allowed to go on. All you new young nurses will reach the $35/hr mark in a FEW years. Then your days/career are numbered. You will have a shorter lived career than us old nurses. Keep championing these CEO's and administrators. Some facilities by State Law only have to have 1(ONE) RN in the BUILDING.

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I really love taking care of people but there is no way I will take a job that is paying me the same amount my mom makes an hour as an LPN! This is really a bummer considering I thought we were in a shortage for nurses and you would think we would get paid more.

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Nicole74-"How can you be working in the field making $26,75..." I think that question is better answered by all the Nurse Managers reading these posts and a CEO (one of many) from a small NJ speciality hospital whose initals are JE. "Who retired after 40 yrs of service" wasn't that nice that turd got to retire after 40 yrs., after he kicked out numbers of senior nurses from that hospital. I'm sure they can all come up with some BS.

THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY/EMPLOY NURSES WITH EXPERIENCE OVER A CERTAIN LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE!!! This is called setting a precedent. This is laying down the limits of income.

If something is not done about this now - see what all of you will have to look forward to in the future. This is the economy being blamed to manipulate the nursing salaries. Do you honestly think they are going to let you young nurses starting out at 25-26/hr and continue to get raises to equivilent what us older nurses progressed at and to? We started out at $9-12/hr in 1980. Your dreaming?

If this allowed to go on. All you new young nurses will reach the $35/hr mark in a FEW years. Then your days/career are numbered. You will have a shorter lived career than us old nurses. Keep championing these CEO's and administrators. Some facilities by State Law only have to have 1(ONE) RN in the BUILDING.

I really am sorry that you're having a hard time, but I find it to be a bit much that you would come into a thread about NEW nurses only to make incredibly discouraging comments. We're all aware of how tough things are in this field at the moment, as with all jobs in general, but new nurses really don't need to be told how awful the field is and how we won't have our jobs in the future and told we're "dreaming" if we think we will. I hope your situation gets better, but discouraging other people isn't going to change anything for you either.

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agldragonRN what hospital do you work for? If you dont mind me asking...thanks!
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Omg she's sounds really salty!! Yikes!

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