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No. 10
from criticalHP
Old Aug 06, 2009, 04:02 AM

Default Re: Normal CVP?
Originally Posted by dorimar View Post
Yeah critical HP,

but usually it is a goal of CVP > 8.

Also, nursingdude78, how old is this order? Is it something that was ordered days ago when the patient may have been in severe shock, that may not apply to the patient situation right now? Some orders stay on the MAR inappropriately....

Yes, the goal is CVP>8 for non-vented pts; but CVP>12 for intubated pts.
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No. 11
Old Aug 06, 2009, 09:51 AM

Default Re: Normal CVP?
Originally Posted by criticalHP View Post
Yes, the goal is CVP>8 for non-vented pts; but CVP>12 for intubated pts.



Is this due to the extra PEEP when someone is intubated? Our sepsis orders have a goal of 8-12, regardless of vented/not vented. Thanks!
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No. 12
from criticalHP
Old Aug 11, 2009, 02:49 AM

Default Re: Normal CVP?
Originally Posted by Sue Damones View Post
Is this due to the extra PEEP when someone is intubated? Our sepsis orders have a goal of 8-12, regardless of vented/not vented. Thanks!
Sue, I've been searching a while for the answer to this--I just can't find it. It certainly seems to make sense though. Intubation and added peep increases intrathoracic pressure which results in decreased venous return and subsequently decreased CO. I'll post the link to Manny Rivers Paper on severe sepsis; I couldn't find anything there but this is the paper that began early goal directed therapy protocols that our ICU (and many others) have adopted. Many hospitals have modified this as new knowledge is discovered (which happens every couple of years it seems). If the link doesn't work I used a basic google search for "Manny Rivers sepsis paper".
Sorry I couldn't anser your question more directly. It is quite possible too, Sue, that as most hospitals will adopt a modified version of the original recommendations, the higher CVP requirements at my institution were implemented based on the infectious desease medical control policy.
http://www.nimbot.com/EGDT/Early%20G...ic%20Shock.pdf
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