ITT Tech?

U.S.A. Michigan

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Have any of you looked into their ADN program? It is new in Michigan this year; however, Indiana just had their first graduates, or are getting close to graduation.

I took the HESI at ITT Tech in July. I'm on pins and needles waiting to hear something. If all goes well, I plan to start in September. :yeah:

One drawback is the cost. Another is that nothing you take here will transfer. That's something to condider if you are young and may eventually go on to obtain your BSN. Me? I'm in my 40's now. No chance of getting my BSN.

Please post if you know anything about this school, or if you were one of the many who took the HESI here. No waiting list. Score high enough on the HESI and you're in. The caveat is that they are only taking 30 students to start. I plan to be one from the initial class. We should hear something this week.

Thank you ,for your advice.I know it won't be a walk in the park ,I worked as a STNA in a nursing home for eight years.Also I noticed how some doctors think they simply can't make any mistakes, and smarter than any of us.Nursing school will be hard ,even though it is hard hopefully I will garduate in 27 months , and find a job.I have three small kids,so I need do do this so I can provide them a decent future.As a nurses aid I just can't.Also I waited long enough to further my education,and I will give my best .I decided years ago that I wanted to be a nurse but I always had to wait,and now when I can I will not give up no matter what.

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Does anyone know anything about the Norfolk, Va ITT nursing program? I would appreicate any input if there are any current students out there.

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OK DONT SHOOT THE MESSENGER!!!! i was browsing looking for help with the HESI test and i came across some disturbing accusations about ITT tech. i will post the link. I work at a hospital as a biller so i am going to ask the nursing director about how ITT tech graduates are viewed and accepted. Does anybody know any ITT tech nursing graduates that we can ask questions about the quality of education? I am also going to call other hospitals, i will let you all know my results in a couple days. I am soooo disappointed but im not discouraged...yet. I really want to go there but i will definitely do more research but the fact that its so easy to get into the nursing program kind of concerns be. Ok future ITT tech students...stay positive until i can confirm the accusations.

here is the link

http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/ITT-Technical-Institute.aspx

just in case it doesnt work go to rip off dot com (ripoff.com) and type in ITT tech in the search section.

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what score on the hesi do you need to get in?

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Wanted to make a few points to everyone. I am not sure why there is so much negative feelings toward ITT Tech. I saw a poster make statement that "ITT Tech grads must pass the same tests to become certified and receive their RN license as everyone else" and that is totally true. I saw another poster state "they had a friend in recruiting that stated employers say stay away from ITT Tech grads or Corporate school grads" now I am know that one is not true. I own a national executive recruiting firm and in the 20 years I have owned my company, and been doing recruiting in the medical field, not once has any of my client companies ever said to me or any of my recruiters, I need an RN but not from ITT Tech or a corporate school. They are concerned with having the needed license (RN,LPN) and experience of the applicant, period.

Yes, there may be certain companies that will not consider Corporate school applicants, but by and large they are welcomed just as any other Nurse. In addition many have questioned why go to such a school it is so much more expensive. Plain and simple answer there. They just don't want to or cannot wait to get into traditional college programs or community college programs with waiting lists of over 2 to 3 years. One poster stated these people go to Corporate college's because they don't want to face going to a University. Wrong again. Many have high GPA'S in high school and have previously attended college with exceptional grades. I spoke with an applicant the other day that was a grad from ITT Tech's Nursing program and she had switched schools from a major University with a 3.9 GPA, and I had her 5 job offers the next day from large hospitals.

I just think that before you go thinking a program is not up to par because of what a few people may say or think, you should be more open minded and weigh all the facts.

Everyone have a great day!!!!!!

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Specializes in Med-Surg.

Recruiter Bob,

The nursing job market is saturated, where did you find 5 job offers for her, I'm skeptical because I have friends at the top 10% of their class from prestigous univerisities telling me that they are desperate and going to settle for nursing home jobs. BSN graduates with great gpas, references, resumes, lists of volunteer and extra curricular activities, and they don't get a single call back.

To anyone reading this please be aware that getting a nursing job will be an exhausting process and you will be competing with people like my friends who are still on the lookout to trade up.

As to the original post, I know ITT grads, students, and drop-outs. 50% of them failed 1st semester, no problem though since they have rolling admissions... WRONG!

A 50% rate of attrition is horrible, and since you can't transfer your credits to another school from ITT you are locked into their expensive program. The program is basically sink or swim with independant learning from text books being the make or break factor.

Personally this sounds like predatory practices to me.

Any reputable institution will release its statistics on enrollment, and rates of graduation.

ITT tech may have a comparable NCLEX pass rate but this is deceptive since it is possible that 90% of applicants who were enrolled in 1st semester never make it to this point.

From the people that I know, I have heard that people dissappear from the program so fast you never even get to know everyones names. This is a big deal considering the tens of thousands spent on tuition yield credits only useful at ITT tech. So they are opting to not "throw good money after bad"

All this to compete in an over saturated job market with graduates of established and respected universities.

Bob did have a good point at the end, weigh all the facts, try doing some independant research on ITT tech it isn't flattering what you will find, and it's the things that you should be able to find that are missing that are the most worrying.

I would only choose ITT tech as a last resort.

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Why are students dropping out so quickly? Is the coursework too intense?

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Specializes in Med-Surg.

They are not dropping out, think of for profit technical schools as a conveyor belt mass producing a product.

There is often less pressure to produce a high quality product that has to be painstakingly hand assembled, than mass producing high quantities of inferior items. Do not mistake me in my analogy, I'm not saying in any way that ITT Tech grads are inferior, in many ways they are superior is their study habits. What I am saying is that there is pressure to get as many students through the admissions process, (more than is reasonable), less emphasis on individual attention, and less focus on trying to teach to the highest standard of instruction.

Basically a cookie cutter mentality, if you dont fit in the form, you get the "privilege" to shell out an extra semesters worth of tuition and start over.

People fail out because nursing school is very hard to begin with when you have great grades and impecable study habits. That is why most nursing schools have such rigid entry requirements. Now lower the entry requirements, increase admissions, decrease individual attention, and what do you get? A whole bunch of people that are made to believe they are "stupid" or "can't hack it" when under other circumstances they would probably be successful.

The catch lies in the fact that the courses they passed are highly unlikely to transfer to anywhere else, thus locking them into ITT tech. When you have a captive audience there is little pressure to improve. Its like prison food, you can grumble all you want but when meal time comes, what options do you have?

I have heard that there is a big deal with federal student aid and technical schools, they are accepting money from a government that would like to see taxable income from graduates only to have a school take the money and spit out a student that has thousands of dollars in debts and no degree. Why would the state and federal government want to continue to provide interest payments on loans, or grants to schools that don't produce as many graduates per admissions as other schools?

Finally, I don't want to try and "convince" anyone to accept my point of view. THINK FOR YOURSELF. Search for information, look at reviews, look at government and school statistics, then think to yourself is there something wrong with this picture? What information is out there and what information looks like it's being hidden?

If a school is of high quality, they want you to know it, thus they will publish the graduation rate, they want you to know how sought after their services are, and what the value you are getting for your money is in terms of an education.

Conversely, a bad school will see pressure to hide these stats, who would choose to go to a school that cant teach 50% of their students.

Back to the original point:

There is a national standard the NCLEX RN, it is beyond the schools control to hide the information on who takes this test and the pass rate.

So, each class has to be of a certain standard sufficent to get people to pass this final test, if the instruction is poor but the standard is the same you will end up with high rates of attrition.

If you manage to graduate under these conditions, you would have done even better at another school in my opinion.

In closing, a license is a license, anyone with one is able to provide care, who cares if you got it from ITT or somewhere else? There are some places that do distinguish, for the most part it won't hurt you, nor should it. I just believe there is injustice being done to the people who will never get a fair shake at reaching that point. Instead they get tore-enroll, pay back mountains of debt with a no-diploma, entry level job, or find something else to do.

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Specializes in Med-Surg.

I wanted to clarify that their NCLEX pass rates are compareable to other schools, what is hidden is the number of people who fail out becuse the quality of instruction is poor but the school exams are standardized to the NCLEX. In short, going to ITT tech is a gamble on an unknown variable. Are you willing to take a $40,000+ bet with money you may not have on if you will get a good education? The stakes are too high for my tastes

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I am currently into the fifth quarter at ITT (AKA Breckinridge School of Nursing). Out of the 30 people I started with we've lost six from our cohort. They are all retaking nursing classes that they weren't able to pass with an 80%. I barely passed the last nursing class with an 80.5%. I would tend to recommend people consider other nursing programs if possible. If you are thinking of signing up for this program, here are a few things to consider:

  • Nursing classes are only 3 1/2 hours per week. There is no way to cover the material in that amount of time so students are left to learn from the book and given very little help.
  • You must pass each class with an 80% or you reatke the class. Some of these classes are 8 credits so the cost is over $4K to retake. Failing to get an 80% twice in any class results in termination from the program.
  • ITT is still not accredited. There are very few schools that accept ITT credits to further your education (they do offer a BSN program now online)

Here are a few positives:

  • Less time in class offers a good schedule for working people (if you can get through all the homework that is).
  • The Instructors at my school are all outstanding nurses with years of experience to offer students. (all have masters degrees in nursing)
  • ITT offers more clinical time than most other schools.
  • The entire program is 27 months.

I chose ITT because I didn't want to wait 2-3 years for a nursing program. If you decide to sign on with ITT be aware that they have the right to change the rules of the program at ANY time they so choose. Also be prepared to learn most of the material at home by yourself or in study groups w/other students (if available).

They do offer microbiology- I am currently taking the class.

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  • Nursing classes are only 3 1/2 hours per week. There is no way to cover the material in that amount of time so students are left to learn from the book and given very little help.
  • You must pass each class with an 80% or you retake the class. Some of these classes are 8 credits so the cost is over $4K to retake. Failing to get an 80% twice in any class results in termination from the program.
  • ITT is still not accredited. There are very few schools that accept ITT credits to further your education (they do offer a BSN program now online)

Not to beat a dead horse, as I've been on here a number of times, but I went to a STATE nursing program for a year and what you said was true of that school as well. We started out with 75 people in the class. Some people had to repeat semesters (they had the same 80% rule--imposed by the state), some people dropped out, etc. The number of people graduating was maybe 2/3's of the original number. We had classes once per week and had a ridiculous amount of reading to do. The nursing classes themselves didn't transfer anywhere, either. But, like you said, passing the NCLEX is the main thing.

My biggest recommendation, regardless of which nursing program you choose, is to take absolutely everything like microbiology at a state school and MAKE CERTAIN it transfers! Do your homework before you commit to anything. At any rate, your community college will be significantly cheaper and you will have more flexibility in your choices for nursing school.

:nurse:

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I'm in the Jacksonville nursing program. I'm currently in my third quarter and I just love it. I'm learning so much. The instructors are great too. They really care about their students. I don't care about the negative comments people have to say about itt tech. Every school is different. We are approved by the board of nursing. So with that being said as long as I have my certification and degree. I'm fine. Your license isn't going to have the name of your college on there but only your number. Good day people!

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