new graduate RN -- terminated after 2 months - page 4
hi all, i was recently terminated from my rn job at a major teaching hospital. i was let go after working there for only 2 months. how do you move on after this? i was in denial for the first 2 weeks, now reality is setting in... Read More
- 2May 2, '12 by Harrisonthis sounds so familure....i also was termintaed after 5 month at my first job and have been terminted several times from other nursing positions due to female coworkers. women don't like male nurses that know more than they do, they get deffensive insecure and jelious and will look for ways to make you look bad or make an error. it is the been a patern any time a male starts to show up the female nursing establishment...... it has been jelousy insecurity of other female nurses. i have seen over and over again that women will support each other and help cover up mistakes and a male nurse is thrown under the bus. you need for your survival "men are from mars and wemon from venus", it will help you understand how women think and how to better manage yourself. relationship advice & health advice books by john gray, ph.d. - john gray's mars venus
my advise to you is to go into a specality that is male dominated such as oprerating room - emergency rooms - corrections and psyc. my self last year worked in a prision and it was the best job ever due to the male population of the prision, male correction officers, and due to all that testoserone even the female nurses started to work and comunicate more like men, direct to the point, not passive agressive, problens were taken care of on the spot and nobody held grudges, forgive forget and move on. it was great work emviorment to bad the state cut back agency staff and at that time i was not in a position to apply for full time employment with the state.if you have any questions e-mail me privately.
harrison rn for 8 years.
- 1May 10, '12 by BEACHBUM199DUDE BEEN THERE ,I HAVE TO TELL YOU ALOT OF MEN QUIT AND GET OUT OF NURSING, AFTER 36 YRS IN SURGERY I WAS LAID OFF AND, IN INTERVIEWS COUNTLESS TIMES ENCOUNTER DISCRIMINATION FOR MY AGE NOW AND I BELIEVE SEX, OUR COUNTY IS OVERFLOWING WITH OUT OF WORK NURSES......WHEN I WAS IN THE 70'S ,80'S ,90'S, 2000'S THINGS WERE DIFFERENT, EACH DECADE 1970 WANTED MALE RN'S, 80S TOO , 90S , LATE 2000S THINGS STARTED CHANGING, I NOTICED THE DECORUM IN THE O.R. BECAME MORE BOISTEROUS, LOUD HEAVY MUSIC IN THE O.R,( AND I AM NOT SQAURE) HEAVY PERSONALITIES, OBVIOUS MOOD DISORDERS AMONG SOME CO-WORKERS( ON MEDS TOO!), I CAN SAY I THINK NURSING HAS HAD A HUGE INFLUX OF THOSE, AND THAT THEY AQUIRE POSITIONS OF MANAGEMENT THAT BENDS AN EAR TOO FALSE JUDMENTS AND ACCUSATIONS OF MALE VS FEMALE BS, AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT... MY OTHER MALE RN FRIENDS ALL ENCOUNTERED THIS, OF COURSE YOU MEET THE USUAL KISS ASS WHO WILL TELL YOU HE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM... MY BEST ADVICE IS WE SHARED WITH EACH OTHER... "KEEP A LOW PROFILE"," SHARE LITTLE OF YOUR PERSONAL OPINIONS", "KEEP COMPASSION AT THE FORE WITH YOUR PATIENTS"... AND BE READY FOR A LIFETIME OF SOME JOY AND LOT OF B.S. FROM THOSE OF A HIGH AND MIGHTY MINDSET CO-WORKERS, THEY WEAR THEIR RN ON THEIR SLEEVE LIKE SGT STRIPES... YOU OLDER NURSES KNOW WHO THEY ARE!!... MY PROFESSOR IN COLLEGE WHERE I WAS A CUM- LAUDE NURSE GRAD, TOLD ME ,"BE AWARE THE NURSES EAT THEIR OWN'.....
KEEP PLUGGING AWAY AT FINDING WORK,THOUSANDS OF US OLDER AND NEW GRADS ARE GETTING SHAFTED BY THE HOSPITAL AND NURSING ADMINISTRATORS ALL OVER THE USA ,SOME STATES LIKE CALIF WORSE THAN OTHERS.......OR YOUR YOUNG FIND ANOTHER CAREER... I WAS STUCK AND HAD CHILDREN EARLY AND NURSING BACK THEN PAID WELL, SO I STAYED ONLY TO PAY THE BILLS AND STAY ABOVE WATER AND OF SOME$$$ LEFT OVER... SO IT SERVED ME WELL AND MY FAMILY/KIDS, BUT ALSO CAUSED BURN OUT OFTEN, AND HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE AS A TRAUMA SURG RN 36 YRS, THERE WAS ALWAYS AGGRAVATING BS TO DEAL WITH AND THAT IS MEDICINE AND NURSING MY SOUL BROTHER......GOD BLESS US ALL MY BROTHERLast edit by BEACHBUM199 on May 10, '12
- 1May 17, '12 by goober_monger86Hey, I just found this post. I also found myself in a similar situation as the OP. Short story made long: I was scheduled to finish orientation within the next couple weeks. First meeting after I originally started the educator asked how it was going, I replied "a little slow but I think I'm getting it." she says "well, slow is ok so long as you're getting it". A month later she bites my head off for some odd reason (even my precept said she shouldn't have been that rough). 2 weeks later her tune changes and I move on through orienation up until last week. Called in for a meeting and am told of all of these things I was never aware of (one patient requesting I not be her nurse) and things from over a month ago that I do not recall doing or not doing. After sitting and listening to them yelling at me I'm met with "You're options are basically to resign or you can try to finish out your orientation where I'm more than likely going to terminate your status as an employee on this unit. It would look better on your resume if you just resign." So, for me, being spoken to like that made my decision easy. However, during my initial interview (which she offered me the position at the end of) she made this statement, "I normally don't like hiring new grads from the school you went to. I've had bad experiences with them in the past" and that was the thought that immediately came to my mind during the end of this meeting. I guess my question to any of you is, 1) what is the general opinion of an interviewer making such a statement about where you went to school, and 2) what are you're thoughts on the situation? (Yes, I am a male RN. Yes, I've had a few instances where I've been late on meds but never given wrong meds to wrong patient or wrong route. And they had complained about time management though from EVERY working nurse I was with they say that always comes with time AFTER you figure out what works for you). Oh, and yes this was my first job but I'm not disheartened or anything, I just have my opinions of certain individuals, . Any thoughts?
- 0Sep 6, '12 by neelieyelikI'm a woman, but I've had my head bitten off by a preceptor before, and met my share of passive aggressive female RNs. It's because they're HUMAN, not because they're women. Have any of you complaining male RNs thought that maybe the reason your previous coworkers didn't like you is, I dunno, maybe your attitude?
Sometimes people just aren't friendly. Sometimes the culture on a specific unit might completely clash with your personality. Why does it always have to be about discrimination?
They probably don't dislike you because you're a man. They probably dislike you because you kind of act like a jerk. Adjust your attitude BEFORE you walk in the door and you will be surprised how far it will take you.Last edit by neelieyelik on Sep 6, '12
- 0Jul 1 by Real Nurse JackieIm in the same situation...I got let go after 1 month... I am a girl, doesn't matter, its a rough patch but keep your head up. I know how you feel
I will tell you this though, be honest to your next employer. Sometimes it works, other times its worthless to be honest. It is a hit or miss, but if you do lie about termination or not even mentioning your last employer it CAN come back to bite you.
Try to find out who they report employment history to. The cheap way HR does it is through those free credit check places like "Equifax, TransUnion etc. Or the other way is through some kind of 3rd agency party, for example "The Work Number" is VERY VERY VERY commonly used. I found out today that my last employer uses them and so does the current hospital I applied at. I blocked all access (its free) so know one can look up my past work history, NOBODY (employer or not) can see it. Here is the link and the customer service line to ask if a certain hospital uses it and to freeze your information.
Equifax Verification Services | Instant Online Verifications
The Work Number Client Service Center can change a setting to block all verification requests about you. Contact them Monday thru Friday, 7a.m. - 8p.m. at 1-800-996-7566
The Work Number is used to verify employment and check salary/wages etc etc. It is definitely an interesting thing to research and learn about, its basically legal identity theft in some ways, not going to get into it just read up about it if you are interested.
By calling and having your information freezed is kind of a way of 'covering your tracks'. So that they wont all of a sudden one day find out you lied about or didn't mention where you worked, which is automatic grounds for termination. I dont know if its full proof (but I have a good hunch it might be), but honestly if you know you wont get a good reference and that it might mess up your chances at a future job and you dont want to list them.... consider it. Just saying.