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    Thanks! The army is always promoting education but nursing is a different beast with clinicals. I'm curious as to how your peers who are in the reserves are doing nursing school with the possibility of deployment. That is I'm assuming they're in drilling units and not the IRR. Might be a but much but if you get a chance could you ask one of them? If not no biggie... =]

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    Quote from just_cause
    yup look into the new bill. i have plenty of friends using it now who were commissioned. everything isn't black and white - i was commissioned and had the old gi bill (chp31) and then converted it to the new bill (chp33)...
    accel programs IMHO are hit or miss depending on your personal preferences.. I don't see how a 2.5 year program is accelerated. many bsn programs are two normal academic years after standard prereqs are completed. some might feel advantages of standard program or a program that is conducive to gaining experience while working part time as a nurse tech or CNA while in school - as in some geographic areas that jobs are tight it provides that needed foothold to a job.
    From what I understand the accel program is 12-14 months but I can see what you're saying... To be honest I'm just looking to complete this degree and start working while I'm still young, ambitious and capable. I hear learning gets considerably harder the more you age so I feel like I'm working against an hourglass. Thanks again for the input and if anyone else has anything to offer; please do.

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    Quote from just_cause
    K, 8 years service does NOT require any army reserves. You can finish your active duty obligation and then enter into the IRR and that is that... you don't need to join the reserves. Yes look into the GI Bill... I don't know why you don't consider yourself a Soldier - that is every member of the Army. anyhow all of that is possible I think you are still learning the ropes - look into the GI Bill and soon you'll find out you dont' need to be in the reserves. Best of luck. Post any new updates - best of luck.
    Haha my situation is slightly more complicated. I was assessed reserves and went active through a program called ADOS (active duty operational support) Gave me the opportunity to go active for three years and after that three years I have to return to my reserve unit so the track I took isn't the same as people who were assessed active duty and do their initial 4 years and go into the IRR. I realize that we're all Soldiers (or Warriors as they say now) but as officers we don't receive all the same benefits as the Soldiers do. For example the old Montgomery GI bill was only open to enlisted members not commissioned officers. I'll research the GI bill to get a better grasp of it. Thanks for your input.

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    Quote from just_cause
    A few questions / thoughts.

    So when active duty contract is up - are you electing to do reserves because of finances or ? If choosing reserve have you actually checked to see if your job is available? Have you looked into their scheduled rotation schedule for deployment?
    Are you eligible for GI Bill Chp33?
    Is your living location, reserve unit and an accelerated program near you? If so is it an ADN or BSN accel program? Do you have pre-reqs done? Are you confident in your admission to this program? Transferring to reserves are you changing MOS and need to attend schooling or smooth transition?
    What is your intent after getting nursing degree - military (active or reserve) or civilian?
    Well my active duty time is up July 2013 but I'm still obligated my 8 years of service so I'm going to finish off my time in the reserves which is what a lot of people end up doing. My MOS in the military is 92A logistical (quartermaster) and I'm not interested in re classing to become an Army Nurse at least not as of right now.
    I'm not sure about the GI Bill Chp 33 I'll have to research that more. Is that offered to all service members or just Soldiers? I'm currently a 2LT so I'm not sure if there are any stipulations as to whether it's any different or will incur additional service time.
    My location is near a reserve unit and I already have a slot there but I can switch units at any time and yes there are a few accelerated nursing schools around my area. It is an accelerated BSN program. This is the description for courses and ones similar to it.
    The interested candidates must have completed their Bachelor degree in any field if they wish to apply for the accelerated nursing program. The advanced degrees are suitable for nurses who have an Associate's Degree and there are options to earn both bachelors and Master's Degree simultaneously. The candidates with impressively high number of credit hours can also apply for these registered nursing programs.

    But there are cases where some of the accelerated nursing programs accept only applicants holding credits in science or Biology courses. Some of the other pre-requisite courses are Anatomy & Physiology, Microbiology, Chemistry, Psychology, Statistics, Human Growth and Development, Nutrition, or Ethics. You have to remember that these eligibility criteria will vary from one nursing school/university to another.
    I have all the pre-reqs done because I've done all the sciences (and most of the nursing classes up to 300 level for that matter...) in my undergraduate degree. Matter of fact I have 2 med surg rotations, psych rotation, and OB rotation completed. I have a BS but it's in Liberal Studies, not nursing. the only thing that concerns me is the validation of the completion of the pre-reqs if it's serveral years after I've taken them.

    My intent is to go civilian in the nursing career and maybe stay in the reserves after my service time has been completed.

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    So I'm doing some future planning and I want to do an accelerated nursing program in 2 1/2 years after my contract with active duty service is up. This way I'll have money set aside so I can go back to school. In college I was previously a nursing student but had to drop out due to a number of issues. Here's the link for more detail.

    Want to 'rejoin' Army Nurse Corps - Nursing for Nurses

    Anyways I was wondering if anyone has details on how accelerated nursing programs work. My main question is in regards to if this is possible or not. Once I leave active duty I will be in the reserves NOT the IRR so I will still have to drill once a month and do AT two weeks every year with the possibility of deployments... Does anyone know if I will be able to do the program and maybe work out some type of schedule with my commander? Any info is appreciated.

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    No, i have a contract because as i previously mentioned I was on a nursing scholarship for 2 years and then I had to leave the nursing program. I am commissioning in may as a 2lt in the Qm corps which I have no complaints about but I still wanted the opportunity to complete my nursing degree. I will have my bachelors degree in about a month and the prereqs are done along with nursing courses (up to but not including 400 level courses) Thing is though i'm in the guard and my bolc dates are not until august of next year. Not sure if that's workable or not. I think it is possible to go to school while doing reserve in the army because I know one girl in the guard who is still going to school getting her masters.

    p.s. I couldn't figure out how to pm you, lol.

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    olderthandirt2, I did think about doing a 2 year program but to be honest I have already done 2 medical surgical rotations, 1 ob rotation, 1 psych rotation, etc. I've already completed 3/4 of my nursing program so i've still retained most of that knowledge. The only area of difficulty I had was pharmacology. Since I already graduated from college I don't think I can apply to an undergraduate program. Also the army paying for my schooling would be a plus but it isn't something I'm looking for plus I don't think they would do it since i'd be in the guard. And yes I do realize nursing is definitely not a slouch job.

    I just want to get it done asap because
    1) I think that after a certain number of years your undergraduate courses do not count anymore and you have to retake them
    2) I don't want to wait too long to go back to school
    3) I still want to pursue a masters degree (later in life)

    just_cause, I don't think the army will let me push my graduation date any further because I already pushed it back one year. They need me to graduate by 2009; migration to another year would not be possible (I don't think...) Also if I was applying to an ABSN program would I really need a letter of recommendation from my nursing professors? Also how are they more money intensive? I actually found them to be cheaper but that might just be my misunderstanding. Also what do you mean a two year bsn? Can you please advise me on this I have no idea what you are talking about. Aren't the choices accelerated bsn or undergraduate bsn (which requires four years of college) also if I want too long will I have to take the pre-reqs over again (i.e. bio, chem, etc)

    Thank you both very much for your input I really appreciate it.

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    Hello everyone,

    Let me start by explaining my situation. I joined Army rotc my junior year on a two year nursing scholarship. Things were going great until the end of my junior year and everything in my life started going haywire and since I joined the nursing major late I have been fighting an uphill battle (academically) and my life issues just caught up with me and I couldn't hack it anymore. I had to leave the nursing program and I will be commissioning this may in the national guard as a QM officer. My BOLC dates do not start until Aug of 2010. I plan to make use of my degree for now (Health Administration) but I also plan on returning to nursing. My questions are:

    Is it possible to do this?

    What are the possibilities of doing an Accelerated BSN program and joining the ANC? I don't want to get my associate degree because I feel that would be a waste of two years considering I already will have a Bachelors degree and I qualify for accelerated BSN programs because of that.

    What are the possibilities of getting into an acceleration program 'period' if you have any experience or knowledge about that.

    Can I go to school full time while in the guard? What if the unit I'm with gets deployed in the middle of the school year?

    Are there any army programs that will help me do this (The FNEP requires you to be an O-3 so I don't qualify for that)?

    Any advice in general about this topic would be appreciated.

    Thank you in advanced for all of your feedback.

    -Mybluesky

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    Hello,

    I am currently a junior in college and I am enrolled in the ROTC program (currently MSIII going to LDAC in a month) and I had a question about an OCONUS duty station. Traditionally I hear oconus is hard to get as a first duty station (Germany in particular) but I hear Korea is easier to get because it's considered a hardship tour and it isn't the most popular place.... that's what I hear... Now myself... not exactly the straight A student and not exactly the highest PT score achiever is wondering: What are the chances that I can get Korea as my first duty station if I'm not really that high up on the OML (Order of Merit List) I really really wanna go there but I dunno what my chances are lookin like....

    Also if anyone has been to korea @ at 121st gen hospital there please share your experiences! or any kind of experiences as an army nurse at your first duty station. I have no idea what to expect!

    Thanks

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    I agree... I think he meant it in a good way, and California especially with all the illegal immigrants bankrupting the hospital er rooms need more nurses! I give him credit for acknowledging that.

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    Hi my name is Joe and I'm a nursing student about to begin my second year. I just have a question for current nurses. Do you ever get annoyed or discouraged from what a nurse really is as opposed to what you see on TV? Everytime I watch TV whether it would be ER, House, Scrubs, or any medical show the nurse is always portrayed as the one doing the dirty work. I even remember one episode of the show House where there was a shortage of nurses and the doctor said that "they shouldn't be doing what nurses do" in a rather disgusted way... and also the nurses is always the typical white female (or male...very rarely male) who is always subordinate to a higher power and answers to a doctor like a slave would to his/her owner. Please tell me this is not how doctors really are?! My father is a doctor and he always gives the most respect to nurses but he tells me that always isn't the case...
    Sometimes seeing this stuff discourages me from continuing nursing school.

    (sorry if there was a thread about this)

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    Organic chemistry defies all rules of logic. Forget everything you learned before! One tip I can give you is look at orgo from an analytical point of view... almost like how you would study philosophy. If you aproach orgo as formulas and math you'll just confuse yourself. I'm a nursing student but I didn't take nursing orgo so I don't know how that would be. Probably easier than the one I took. Good luck! You should be fine...

    (It's true orgo is the pre med weed out class but P-Chem is by far the hardest subject you can possibly take.)

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    Well I did a report on the role of males in nursing and one of the things that I found in my research was that a lot of male nursing students did not feel welcome in their assessment labs and a lot of females felt uncomfortable in assessment lab with a male partner...

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    Hello everyone,

    I am a male nursing student in my second year of my nursing program and I am going to be taking physical assessment lab. Now I'm assuming that I will be taking this lab with all females and I was wondering if anyone had any tips to make it less awkward because there will obvisouly be some discomfort between my partner and I.

    Thanks,
    Joe

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    well... I'm not a nurse yet... but it's just a calling that some poeple have to helping others. If you feel that you can dedicate your life to helping other people over your own personal gains then you might have something in the health care field. I was a computer engineering major the first semester and I liked it but I felt there was something missing... I didn't want to be designing a processor or a computer program while there are people out there who need help. Maybe you should try volunteering at a hospital or do community service and see how you like it.
    I don't really think anyone can truly define "it" Heck I might end up not even being a nurse... There's something about being a male in the nursing field that's still holding me back, and the amount of hostility I just received from some people certainly didn't help, but we'll see... everyone is different I'm sure you'll figure it out soon enough... Good luck!


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