edmia 9,237 Views
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I didn't say anyone on this thread said NPs are unworthy. I meant the general feeling (by MPs I've known and some people on these forums) is that NPs should not expect to make much more money than their regular nursing salary. I also see that reflected in these threads about salary when people speak of what to expect as an NP.
I just wonder if the culture of nurses being lower on the pay/respect hierarchy that is prevalent in the healthcare system is being carried onto the advanced practice field. I don't think this is good for business or the well-being of the profession. No NP should start below $100,000 in any area of the country in my opinion. That's just my feeling on the issue and I wish more NPs asked for fair pay. That's all.
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Why do people think $220 k is too much for an NP? I'm honestly curious about this. Why do NPs feel unworthy? For the responsibility and work involved, I find the $200,000+ range completely reasonable.
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Honestly, the mobile app is what alerted me to this forum because on the What's New feed, everything shows up by time of posting. Also, the name of the forum it was posted on is in tiny font in a lighter tone, so sometimes it is missed -- especially if the post title is interesting.
I'm usually drawn to posts from this forum because they are very real, human experiences. Also, because I do not have experience with the recovery process and it intrigues me. I have learned a lot about stipulations and different approaches from this forum. As someone else mentioned, it is not a subject people are open about. I only met one nurse who had been caught diverting narcotics and his story was my idea of how things went down in general. He told about how wonderful his employer had been, how he went into inpatient rehab and was transferred to work within the same system as an addiction specialist. Never lost his job or benefits, it was like a fairy tale story. Now I realize he must have had stipulations from the BON too. Unless the employer handled it all in-house? I wish I'd known what to ask back then... He was giving a talk during orientation to encourage those with addiction issues to speak up and voluntarily enter the state program. Crazy! He never mentioned the legal aspect of dealing with the BON. He made the program sound like an understanding environment where if you self-reported you would be supported and not punished...
The stories of success are wonderful, although often I am left with anger towards the strictness and across the board mentality of the BONs. It seems the punishment is too harsh for the "crime" on many occasions.
Anyway, I appreciate the wisdom of this forum. Thank you all for sharing your experiences.
I do think that is too old to start nursing school, unless you have a clear goal in mind. For example, you have a job lined up before even starting (as in, a friend with a family practice wants to hire you at their office). I had a classmate who was about 60 during school, but she wanted to do the psych NP right after as this was her passion and she was already a therapist. She wanted to prescribe.
I cannot see a new grad in their 60s getting hired in today's job market.
The homebirth midwife is another thing altogether. They already have a practice and will probably go on to a CNM. So again, they have a clear purpose for that degree.
It's not ageism, it's reality. Nursing, bedside in particular, is a draining job.
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What is your obsession with patients and pictures?
I just stalked her posts and saw she did pop in for a few posts last week. Perhaps you are right, Beachy!
I would like to see where JW's have made a statement about this, I've certainly never seen it, and I am a very much active JW. You are correct that some JWs do choose to administer. Some, however, do not and it is because of their religious beliefs that they decide not too, so please explain to me how religious discrimination doesn't apply??? Also, a JW isn't substituting the patients conscious for theirs. That would be if the JW was saying in not going to administer this blood because I don't accept it, so this patient shouldn't either. JWs don't question a persons right to accept or deny blood, they just prefer not to administer it. There is no patronizing or an attempt at religious conversion involved. So how they (we) are substituting patients conscious, I don't understand.
I can't even believe that anyone could contemplate accommodations for a nurse who would refuse life saving treatment for a patient.
As someone mentioned above, if a JW nurse doesn't want blood given to her -- no problem. That's her choice. I've seen patients die because that was their belief. I have no problem with what you do to your own body.
I have a huge problem when you impose your beliefs on others. Huge.
Go work in a setting where you are not in charge of blood products. Get out of the acute care setting if you cannot tolerate the beliefs of others.
I can't even believe this is a thread!
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People who can't leave home stuff at home.
People who act like their crosses to bear in life are so much worse than everyone else's, and use that as justification for laziness, distraction, mistakes, rudeness, etc. Newsflash: We all have problems. Some of us are just better at dealing with them, apparently.
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