Challenge NCLEX-PN in California via Method 3

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Hello, I have read several posts about people who had questions about Challenging the NCLEX-PN here in California, and I would like to share my two cents on the matter because I have sucessfully challenged the NCLEX-PN in California.

I was inclined to challenge the NCLEX-PN because I had finished a fundamentals of Nursing course in a traditional 2 year ADN program and had five years acute care experience as a CNA/Tech. In January 2012, I sent in my application to BVNPT to challenge the NCLEX-PN. I had my manager sign off my work experience form because I had successfully met all criteria in terms of clinical requirements at my hospital over the last five years. The BVNPT requires 48 months paid bedside experience on a Med/Surg floor, and then 6 weeks in pediatrics and 6 weeks in Maternity. I have worked on Med-Surg since being a New-Grad CNA back in '07, and have been cross-trained to float in the Emergency Department and in the OB. If you take care of any patient 17 or under in the Emergency department (or in any setting) they are considered a pediatric patient. Over the past five years, I accumulated all of that, and in my first semester of Nursing school in the ADN program, I took a separate pharmacology course as part of the program. I sent in a signed work experience form by my supervisor sealed in an envelope with our hospitals stamp on it, and I sent in an official transcript from my University to meet the pharmacology requirement.

In addition, I had to pay to have my live scan done and had that completed(and send in a copy of the completed livescan form to the Board with my application), I sent in a passport photo and a check for $150. The BVNPT cashed my check three weeks later and Exactly 16 weeks from the day I applied, I received an envelope in the mail approving my application and directing me to register with pearson vue and pay the additional $200 to them in order to receive my ATT (authorization to test). I immediately did so online, and received my ATT via email moments later. I scheduled my NCLEX in San Francisco online via the pearson website, and set the date for July 21, 2012, giving me two months to prepare. I did the ATI NCLEX review course online, and did tons of Saunders practice questions. I went in feeling very nervous and took the test and it shut off at 85 questions (the minimum amount). To date(three days later) I have not yet received my official results, however I do get this message when trying to re-register:"Our records indicate that you have recently scheduled this exam. Please contact your Member Board for further assistance. Another registration cannot be made at this time."

I have read multiple people's testimonies online regarding challenging the LVN boards based on work experience. I have heard things such as they think it is "unsafe", "ridiculous", and the list goes on. I would just like to say that I would feel much more confident working with a new LVN that has had the five years experience that I carry and has seen what I have seen, over a new-grad LVN. I am not trying to toot my horn, but the Board does not just hand over an LVN license to any incompetent person. If you have the experience, and you can actually pass the NCLEX, then I believe that one is ready to start out as a new LVN. The NCLEX is designed to determine the level of Safety of the applicant, and I know multiple graduates of an Accredited LVN program who have failed the test more than once. And these people are all, for lack of a better term, clinically incompetent individuals as CNAs, so it doesn't surprise me that they have failed a test that requires critical thinking.

I worked very hard to learn this material and to pass this test, and I am happy that California offers this to applicants. In May 2013, I'll be finished with my ADN and ready to take my NCLEX-RN, and believe that I am that much more prepared by achieving the LVN license. Next, I will have to pay another $150 to the BVNPT as an inital license fee, for a total of $600 between the application fee, the NCSBN NCLEX-PN registration fee, and initial license fee. All I can tell people is that if you think that you have the background, get it signed off and mail it in and do it. I did, I took the risk not knowing ANYONE who had done this, and here is where it has gotten me. If you have any questions on how to achieve your LVN license this method, I am very knowledgeable and prepared to answer any questions.

I salute your proactivity and perseverance. I am hoping to do the same thing but with education instead of work time. I have finished three semesters of ADN. I don't know if that is sufficient, and I'm having trouble finding the right person to talk to at the CA-BRN. Would you please tell me where I could pick up/begin the trail you went on? Who do I contact for information and permissible experience? Thanks Fabulous

Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.

You don't contact CA BRN you contact CA BVNPT but the necessary information is on the BVNPT website for "method 3". Which results in an LVN license (if all criteria are met & NCLEX-PN is passed) that is only valid in CA and not endorsable to any other US state.

THANK YOU SO MUCH JustBeachy, your advice is the EXACT truth. Spoke to a BVNPT application processor yesterday. I will add that it was very helpful to talk with this person. To talk with her, I had to leave a message with the BVNPT and wait a couple of days, as the BVNPT could not directly connect me there. The processor called me, and was able to explain all the small details for filling out the application for a successful outcome (and there were many not explained in the application form).

So...if you are so "freely" comfortable with not only "lying", but encouraging one to do so, that (to me personally) doesn't sit to well with me. How is one supposed to trust that you truly had all of this "experience" in each specified PN field that you claim too, and didn't just have your employer "sign off" on it. THIS is the EXACT problem with 'Method 3" in California.

You know, there's the special topic of "Ethics/Ethical Practice" that every LPN program/nursing school reinforces the importance of (I'm sure RN programs do as well, but I'm only qualified to speak about an LPN program at the moment.)

Ethics are stressed in school because everyone has "free will", and any teacher and more importantly-a Nurse who is a teacher wants you to be able to use your judgement. All of my teachers in Nursing school have stressed to me, and my classmates that "There is a BIG difference between what you may see in the nursing field and actual ethical nursing practice, don't take the short cut." If you have only been exposed to the "field way" of seeing how some nurses do things, and were never "taught" the ETHICAL NURSING way. How would you know what that was? Nursing school is an experience for a reason, it changes you and it molds you into a Nurse, it's painful as well as extremely rewarding.

They teach you the "right" thing to do, because there hoping that just ONE of the students remember to take the "high road" in this profession that once, was known for being NOBLE and ETHICAL and truly encompassed caring and compassion.

At graduation/pinning ceremonies, we're required to take an "OATH" - in which you pledge to "Maintain and ELEVATE the standard of the nursing profession", I must have missed the part in which it says to "lie" during an interview/documenting important things. I mean after all it's only patients lives at stake.

To each is own. At the end of the day, no matter what capacity I work in, I work for the patient.

I have no reason to lie about my work experience and my [previous] employer has nothing to gain by singing the work experience form for the BVNPT method 3 application and lying under penalty of perjury.

If I decide to stretch the truth on my resume about my education (Which people do everyday) then so be it. That doesn't make me take any better or worse care of my patients.

You know something, I found something online that showed that in 2012 [the year I challenged NCLEX-PN], out of 121 candidates that took the NCLEX-PN in california via Method 3, only 6 people passed the exam. I was one of the 6 out of 121 candidates who passed the NCLEX-PN without a formal education. If I can do that, then there is no reason for me to be scrutinized and/or penalized my a potential employer and have to risk not receiving a good job opportunity because I live in a world where nobody understands how smart and capable I really am.

I have received countless rewards, praises and have been promoted because I am so competent in Nursing practice.

Furthermore, I am now an RN as I graduated from an LVN to RN bridge program. I entered into the 2nd year of a standard 2 year ADN program and your statement of, "Nursing school is an experience for a reason, it changes you and it molds you into a Nurse, it's painful as well as extremely rewarding" is an absolute joke. The only thing that I and countless other grads found rewarding about Nursing school was graduation. There were times where Nursing instructors made it waaaaaaay harder than it needed to be. You know just as well as I do that it does not need to be like that. I'm glad you had a good experience in your Nursing Program, but there were days where I dreaded going to class to be nitpicked by instructors because I do know my stuff!

You can call it what you want, but your holier than thou, straight-laced, by the book, no room for flexibility way of living has no room in my life. I got to where I am today for a reason. I'm not advocating to falsify medical records or to put your patient in harm. I'm advocating for someone to do what they need to do to get their foot in the door and show their worth..EVEN if that means bend the truth a little bit.

Hello fabulousnurse! I would like to talk more in depth about your experience. Can you please reply?

I have few questions to ask plz email me [email protected]

Hi Fabulousnurse,

I wanted to do this a long time ago but lost my nerve. I've taken a Pharmacology class during a winter semester online. I've been a Certified Nurse Assistant/PCT for over 18 years with experience in Peds and Med Surg. I'm just wondering will that pharmacology class be usable towards the Method 3? And also where did u work as an LPN?

hi there.

So this is the thing I’ve been a cna for 7 almost 6 years my first job was in a nursing home sniff facility . I worked there for almost 2 1/2 years. Then after that I work in pediatric subacute hospital setting for almost 2 years then we transitioned to adults subs acute. Same employer but different DON. I’m still working there up to now. But the DON when we still pediatric sub acute retired already... and my DON on my first job Just recently quit. So I don’t know who will sign and verify my experiences. I’m confused cuz it’s says on the part 2 of the application only the employer needs to fill it up. But if the supervisor doesn’t work there any more can they still sign bec they’re the ones who’s there and saw how I demonstrated the experiences . I hope you guys can help me. Than k you so much.


On 7/24/2012 at 6:39 PM, fabulousnurse said:

Hello, I have read several posts about people who had questions about Challenging the NCLEX-PN here in California, and I would like to share my two cents on the matter because I have sucessfully challenged the NCLEX-PN in California.

I was inclined to challenge the NCLEX-PN because I had finished a fundamentals of Nursing course in a traditional 2 year ADN program and had five years acute care experience as a CNA/Tech. In January 2012, I sent in my application to BVNPT to challenge the NCLEX-PN. I had my manager sign off my work experience form because I had successfully met all criteria in terms of clinical requirements at my hospital over the last five years. The BVNPT requires 48 months paid bedside experience on a Med/Surg floor, and then 6 weeks in pediatrics and 6 weeks in Maternity. I have worked on Med-Surg since being a New-Grad CNA back in '07, and have been cross-trained to float in the Emergency Department and in the OB. If you take care of any patient 17 or under in the Emergency department (or in any setting) they are considered a pediatric patient. Over the past five years, I accumulated all of that, and in my first semester of Nursing school in the ADN program, I took a separate pharmacology course as part of the program. I sent in a signed work experience form by my supervisor sealed in an envelope with our hospitals stamp on it, and I sent in an official transcript from my University to meet the pharmacology requirement.

In addition, I had to pay to have my live scan done and had that completed(and send in a copy of the completed livescan form to the Board with my application), I sent in a passport photo and a check for $150. The BVNPT cashed my check three weeks later and Exactly 16 weeks from the day I applied, I received an envelope in the mail approving my application and directing me to register with pearson vue and pay the additional $200 to them in order to receive my ATT (authorization to test). I immediately did so online, and received my ATT via email moments later. I scheduled my NCLEX in San Francisco online via the pearson website, and set the date for July 21, 2012, giving me two months to prepare. I did the ATI NCLEX review course online, and did tons of Saunders practice questions. I went in feeling very nervous and took the test and it shut off at 85 questions (the minimum amount). To date(three days later) I have not yet received my official results, however I do get this message when trying to re-register:"Our records indicate that you have recently scheduled this exam. Please contact your Member Board for further assistance. Another registration cannot be made at this time."

I have read multiple people's testimonies online regarding challenging the LVN boards based on work experience. I have heard things such as they think it is "unsafe", "ridiculous", and the list goes on. I would just like to say that I would feel much more confident working with a new LVN that has had the five years experience that I carry and has seen what I have seen, over a new-grad LVN. I am not trying to toot my horn, but the Board does not just hand over an LVN license to any incompetent person. If you have the experience, and you can actually pass the NCLEX, then I believe that one is ready to start out as a new LVN. The NCLEX is designed to determine the level of Safety of the applicant, and I know multiple graduates of an Accredited LVN program who have failed the test more than once. And these people are all, for lack of a better term, clinically incompetent individuals as CNAs, so it doesn't surprise me that they have failed a test that requires critical thinking.

I worked very hard to learn this material and to pass this test, and I am happy that California offers this to applicants. In May 2013, I'll be finished with my ADN and ready to take my NCLEX-RN, and believe that I am that much more prepared by achieving the LVN license. Next, I will have to pay another $150 to the BVNPT as an inital license fee, for a total of $600 between the application fee, the NCSBN NCLEX-PN registration fee, and initial license fee. All I can tell people is that if you think that you have the background, get it signed off and mail it in and do it. I did, I took the risk not knowing ANYONE who had done this, and here is where it has gotten me. If you have any questions on how to achieve your LVN license this method, I am very knowledgeable and prepared to answer any questions.

Hi I’m planning to challenge the board too I’m a cna for 7 years. Can u tell me how the process works? I have experiences and I have more than 51 months of experience. I’m just a little confused on the application. Is there any way you can help me? Please. Thank you

On 9/13/2014 at 5:06 PM, fabulousnurse said:

To each is own. At the end of the day, no matter what capacity I work in, I work for the patient.

I have no reason to lie about my work experience and my [previous] employer has nothing to gain by singing the work experience form for the BVNPT method 3 application and lying under penalty of perjury.

If I decide to stretch the truth on my resume about my education (Which people do everyday) then so be it. That doesn't make me take any better or worse care of my patients.

You know something, I found something online that showed that in 2012 [the year I challenged NCLEX-PN], out of 121 candidates that took the NCLEX-PN in california via Method 3, only 6 people passed the exam. I was one of the 6 out of 121 candidates who passed the NCLEX-PN without a formal education. If I can do that, then there is no reason for me to be scrutinized and/or penalized my a potential employer and have to risk not receiving a good job opportunity because I live in a world where nobody understands how smart and capable I really am.

I have received countless rewards, praises and have been promoted because I am so competent in Nursing practice.

Furthermore, I am now an RN as I graduated from an LVN to RN bridge program. I entered into the 2nd year of a standard 2 year ADN program and your statement of, "Nursing school is an experience for a reason, it changes you and it molds you into a Nurse, it's painful as well as extremely rewarding" is an absolute joke. The only thing that I and countless other grads found rewarding about Nursing school was graduation. There were times where Nursing instructors made it waaaaaaay harder than it needed to be. You know just as well as I do that it does not need to be like that. I'm glad you had a good experience in your Nursing Program, but there were days where I dreaded going to class to be nitpicked by instructors because I do know my stuff!

You can call it what you want, but your holier than thou, straight-laced, by the book, no room for flexibility way of living has no room in my life. I got to where I am today for a reason. I'm not advocating to falsify medical records or to put your patient in harm. I'm advocating for someone to do what they need to do to get their foot in the door and show their worth..EVEN if that means bend the truth a little bit.

YOU'RE MY HERO. THANK YOU FOR THIS.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think it matters that they have moved on. They were your DON’s during your tenure so as long as they are willing, why not? Just my 2 cents.

Do you have any format or sample of The application of the nursing experience that I can look at so I have an idea how to fill up the form??

My employer doesn’t know how to fill it up. They don’t wanna make any mistake. Thank you.

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