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Legal Nurse Consultant: Is this what it is made out to be? - page 2

Several of my colleagues are considering attending a class to become Legal Nurse Consultants. They are under the impression that they can make a very large salery doing part time work... Read More

  1. Visit  nurseprnRN profile page
    Quote from cornelio
    Vickie Milazzo charges a 6 days certification for $6000 up to 19k something....yes for a certification. I looked on line and some charges only $2000. Again I checked some Universities like Texas AM and they will only charge you $850. I'm not even sure with the demand for it. Each legal office might need only one or maybe a PRN basis only. A malpractice legal office might have their fulltime one. Those seminars/certification charges are pure BS to charge you 6k. $ 850 is ok.
    VM is not a certification. It's a certificate, not the same thing.

    What is the difference between certification and a certificate?
    Certification is a credential earned by people who have experience in a field. They have put in the hours to learn the basic concepts, and then have gained skill and expertise. A certification examination is administered and certification is granted by an independent entity, that is, not the person who took your money for the course. Most real certifications also require evidence of having practiced in the field for a minimum number of years to allow you to take the examination. Recertification is by continuing education credits available from a variety of sources, not just the person you paid to take the first course.

    A certificate is awarded after a person completes an educational program. The person need not perform any work in that field before or during the program in order to complete a certificate program. It is typically completed by a newcomer to the field by a for profit entity.

    How can I tell the difference between a certificate program and a certification?
    Look at the prerequisites to take the certificate course of study. Can you enroll in the program without prior experience? If the certificate program part of a national specialty organization or is it the product of a person? Is the certificate program recognized by American Board of Nursing Specialties as having met specific criteria? These include a thorough role performance study and analysis and having a psychometrically valid examination. By setting and enforcing standards for certification, the American Board of Nursing Specialties (ABNS) seeks to protect the public and consumers through their mission to provide assurance to the public that the nurse holding the credential from an accredited certification program possesses the knowledge, skills and competency for quality practice in the specialty.

    What is the LNCC?
    The LNCC (Legal Nurse Consultant Certified) certification is similar to the certification awarded to experienced nurses working in a specialty area of nursing, like critical care, oncology, or emergency nursing. It recognizes the experienced practitioner. The LNCC certification program has met rigorous industry standards. LNCC is the only legal nurse consulting credential recognized by American Association of Legal Nurse Consulting, a national organization, and accredited by ABNS.

    In compliance with ABNS standards and requirements, the American Legal Nurse Consultant Certification Board certifies legal nurse consultant professionals through the LNCC program.
    Unlike many certificate programs being offered by colleges and private educational providers, the LNCC program is practice-based. It is not intended to teach individuals how to become legal nurse consultants. Rather, it is designed to measure an individual's "knowledge-in-use" - the application of knowledge and skills by those with real-life experience in this role.

    What are the criteria for sitting for the LNCC exam?
    To be eligible to take the examination, candidates must have the following at the time of application:
    * current licensure as a registered nurse in the
    United States or its territories, with a full and
    unrestricted license
    * a minimum of five years of experience practicing
    as a registered nurse
    * evidence of 2000 hours of legal nurse consulting
    experience within the past five years.

    The American Association of Legal Nurse Consultants offers very cost-effective, comprehensive online webinars to prepare you to be a legal nurse consultant. They also have an excellent textbook, the 2-volume "Legal Nurse Consulting Principles and Practice." After you learn this information, you are in a good position to start work, and after a certain number of hours of work, you are entitled to sit for the certification examination for the LNCC. You don't have to take the AALNC coursework to sit the LNC examination.
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  2. Visit  RanaPrice profile page
    It seems a lot of the comments are being left by the typical postee who doesnt know anything about the topuc but are so desperate to talk that they leave some pessimistic post.

    Like any venture, if you are good at something, andif you work hard there is a lot of money to be made....the same can be said for bedside nursing or selling ice cream.
  3. Visit  elijahvegas profile page
    Quote from RanaPrice
    It seems a lot of the comments are being left by the typical postee who doesnt know anything about the topuc but are so desperate to talk that they leave some pessimistic post.

    Like any venture, if you are good at something, andif you work hard there is a lot of money to be made....the same can be said for bedside nursing or selling ice cream.
    you know? i was thinking the same thing. i was looking for some genuine info on the matter but it looks like the only response we get are "i know a guy who knows a guy who heard" or your typical crabby patty that lashes out at anyone that is attempting to make a change for the better.

    from what ive gathered though, this doesn't appear to be a new profession per se but one that seems to be gaining some popular attention and as such, the sharks are ready to capitalize on anyone interested in a "rich quick" seminar that puts you in the fast lane to making $150 and hour. kind of reminds me of those private universities back in the day (not that long ago at all actually) that promised you an accelerate program and a degree in "just 18 months" just to find out that since the uni wasn't accredited by anyone except mcdonalds and a building inspector, that degree meant squat and they couldnt sit for their boards but only AFTER shelling out thousands and thousands of dollars effectively putting them in debt for the next few years..

    the correct path to do this appears to be some years of hands-on experience as a nurse (obviously, since youre going to be consulted frequently on nursing practices) and a couple thousand hours of actual LNC work in the past 3 yrs. After youve met this criteria you sit for an exam and receive your certification. this certification isn't needed to practice consultation, but if you want to look credible and market yourself better, you better bring your bells and whistles.

    then itll probably depend on how well you can market yourself. this strikes me as a field where how much you make and how much work you get is directly proportional to who you know and how well you can keep em coming back, so building a nice contact list is crucial.

    i haven't read of many private firms/offices/hospitals that have such consultants as permanent staff, and those that do have them at a considerable lower payrate, though that should go without saying considering earning potential is always higher when you work for yourself, though i'm sure the work is out there if you know where to look i suppose.

    so if you dont cut any corners, and put the work in where work needs to be done this seems like a very lucrative career prospect and business venture

    reach for the stars! fall on a cloud, put on your shades and stare at the sun!