Difference between MN and MSN - page 2

by egamboa

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Hi everyone, Is there any difference between MN (Master of Nursing) and MSN (Master of Science in Nursing)? If you could elaborate on these degrees, it would be much appreciated. Thank you.... Read More


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    I received the MN degree in 1975 (almost 35 years ago!) from a University that has always been considered one of the top Nursing Schools in the nation. Believe me, there was a strong research component and a written thesis...the research had to actually be carried out and had to be publishable. The course work was rigorous and demanding. I went on to teach Nursing and fulfill many diverse roles within Nursing. As for the difference between the MN and MSN...Yes, it is an "older" degree but a well recognized one, and the difference in the course work varied slightly from institution to institution. Some Nursing leaders, at the time, considered the MN a "clinically based" degree, while the MSN was considered a "theoretically based" degree...as for me, I believe the difference lies within the individual and what they do to advance and improve the care our patients receive!
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    Quote from ruralgirl08
    I have noticed at a couple local universities, the difference between the MN and an MScN, is that the MScN has a thesis component, while the MN is course based only.
    Ryerson University, here in Toronto, Canada offers a MN, and you have a choice to do either a course based MN of a thesis based one.

    http://www.ryerson.ca/graduate/progr...ng/admissions/
    http://www.ryerson.ca/graduate/programs/nursing/forms/


    I've heard that the main difference between MN and MSN as well as BN and BSN(BScN) is that the ones that have Science in their program title are nursing department that are part of the bigger science department in that uni. and the ones that don't have the science in the name are "free standing, or independent" (idk how to say it) nursing departments... that's what I've heard...

    MN = MSN and BN = BSN(BScN) there is no major difference as far as I understand...

    as for the confusion with NPs... NPs are required to have a MN/MSN but after they complete it I think they have to also complete some specific NP course/certificate(not totally sure about it though), and then write the NP exam to get their license... that's how it is in Ontario, Canada. Have a MN/MSN doesn't automatically make you a Np!
    I also know that me be able to go for NP you have to have 2 years of experience as a RN "Equivalence of 2 years of direct nursing (RN) experience in the last five years (> 3,640 hours"http://np-education.ca/np/index.cfm?main=faq.html#

    more info regarding NP and MN http://www.ryerson.ca/graduate/progr...moverview.html


    Last edit by RPN_2012 on Apr 22, '10
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    Just a slight clarification...in Ontario, one as yet does not need an MN or MSN to be a Nurse Practitioner. You need an NP certification and to write and pass the RN(EC) (Registered Nurse in the Extended Class). While many NPs choose to go on and complete their Masters degree after certification as an NP (myself included), there are still many post Bachelors certified NPs in Ontario. I would bet this will change to keep pace with the rest of North America in the near future.

    In Ontario, all the NP educational courses count as graduate level courses now, so one only needs to complete three more classes after the NP to complete the Masters of Nursing.
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    no diffre , just university make prog name .
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    It is DEFINITELY different at Mt. Saint Joseph University at Cincinnati Ohio:

    http://www.msj.edu/view/academics/gr...nursing_2.aspx

    here' it clearly states: "What the MN degree program is not:

    -A program that prepares the nurse for advanced practice positions, such as a clinical nurse specialist, or a nurse practitioner

    -A Master of Science in Nursing degree"

    SO they're definition of MN does not equal a MASTERS of science in nursing in which you get to be an NP or clinical nurse specialist.
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    Quote from ILOVEnrsg2
    It is DEFINITELY different at Mt. Saint Joseph University at Cincinnati Ohio:

    http://www.msj.edu/view/academics/gr...nursing_2.aspx

    here' it clearly states: "What the MN degree program is not:

    -A program that prepares the nurse for advanced practice positions, such as a clinical nurse specialist, or a nurse practitioner

    -A Master of Science in Nursing degree"

    SO they're definition of MN does not equal a MASTERS of science in nursing in which you get to be an NP or clinical nurse specialist.

    Uhm, you're posting in the CANADIAN forum discussing a CANADIAN education.

    Different nation, different requirements!
    joanna73 and SandBetweenMyToes like this.


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