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    Sigh....
    Last edit by cardiacRN2006 on Feb 22, '09
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    Quote from zenman
    Now that you've read my above post, you should know exactly where I was coming from...experience and knowledge...and that your comment was off the mark.

    During the last nurses' strike in Hawaii, I was proudly taking care of sick patients, patients who were harmed or inconvienced by nurses who have yet to learned that the warrior approach rarely works in any situation. Doesn't mean that I agree with management in any manner.
    Funny how those who decry the "warrior approach" have no qualms about accepting the increased pay and benefits that those "warriors" have made possible. Nor do they have any difficulty accepting obscene amounts of pay for their "noble" acts.

    Namaste...adios and aloha....
    Last edit by WindwardOahuRN on Sep 23, '06
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    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    My oh my....ignorance is bliss.

    And I'm relaxed-but sometimes I get tired of saying the same thing over and over and people still not getting it. Sigh again.
    But, since you are not over there in the strike area you wouldn't know. But I bet you'd like to be there right? Being a scab and crossing the line..and being proud of it to boot.

    Sigh....
    There ya go.

    So...back to the world of those who are actually in the fray. Let's forget about those who profited during the Oahu strike, then cut and ran to other parts of the world and now feel free to spew platitudes about their noble deeds.

    Many union members have contributed to a fund to help the Kaua'i nurses through these tough times. Unlike the striking nurses on Oahu, many were unable to supplement income with agency jobs. Wilcox is virtually the only game in town on Kaua'i.

    It's still going to be rough when they go back. Note to all those seeking to re-locate here---avoid HPH hospitals like the plague. Their treatment of Hawaii's nurses has been nothing short of despicable.

    Here's wishing Kaua'i's nurses the best! :wink2:

    Aloha....to all who care about the future of Hawaii...
    Last edit by WindwardOahuRN on Sep 23, '06
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    Quote from WindwardOahuRN
    There ya go.

    So...back to the world of those who are actually in the fray. Let's forget about those who profited during the Oahu strike, then cut and ran to other parts of the world and now feel free to spew platitudes about their noble deeds.
    Actually, I stayed and worked for 3 years in Oahu. Again, you brought this up because apparently the scars are still there. I have none. Yes, I am noble, I never left a fellow solder and would never leave a patient behind. Plain and simple. I'm old school and that's my choice.

    Here's wishing Kaua'i's nurses the best! :wink2:
    Yes, they have my best wishes for their future.
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    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    My oh my....ignorance is bliss.

    And I'm relaxed-but sometimes I get tired of saying the same thing over and over and people still not getting it. Sigh again.
    But, since you are not over there in the strike area you wouldn't know. But I bet you'd like to be there right? Being a scab and crossing the line..and being proud of it to boot.

    Sigh....
    CardiacRN...ignorance may be bliss for you. However, I have also been a manager...reporting directly to hospital CEO ...and therefore it is probably safe to say, have more experience not only in that area but also in nursing. The word "scab" is only a name and does not affect an adult like me. You can throw names all you want but no one yet desires to come up with a compassionate, ethical answer as to why they harm the very people they
    serve. Are you willing to be the first?
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    Quote from zenman
    ... but no one yet desires to come up with a compassionate, ethical answer as to why they harm the very people they
    serve. Are you willing to be the first?
    Yes I am. I would never cross a line. It's unethical. It undeminds the people who actually know what is going on. And I don't care how long you've been a nurse. I know about a dozen nurses on that line, so your years of nursing experience mean nothing to me about that. A scab is what it is. It doens't matter what you did in the past, or who you reported to-I could care less....
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    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    Yes I am. I would never cross a line. It's unethical. It undeminds the people who actually know what is going on. And I don't care how long you've been a nurse. I know about a dozen nurses on that line, so your years of nursing experience mean nothing to me about that. A scab is what it is. It doens't matter what you did in the past, or who you reported to-I could care less....
    You are saying then that you do not consider it unethical to harm patients? Be sure and remind them of that fact before you take care of them. Now, all this means is that we have a difference in personal and professional standards. Most patients would prefer mine over yours any time.
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    Quote from zenman
    Most patients would prefer mine over yours any time.
    Actually, I would think most patients prefer nurses who actually have standards, not ones who undermind those of others in his profession.
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    Quote from cardiacrn2006
    actually, i would think most patients prefer nurses who actually have standards, not ones who undermind those of others in his profession.
    if these nurses who cross the picket lines are so altruistic, why not practice their "good deeds" in their own home communities? why travel thousands of miles to aid the poor hospitalized patients of hawaii?

    how about going to some classically underserved areas---appalachia, inner city areas, new orleans.

    why not? simple enough. there is a lot more money to be made by crossing picket lines. and wooohooooo----we're going to hawaii!!!

    i just get such a kick out of how scabs try to justify their "mercenary nursing" by citing saintly intentions. it would be laughable if it weren't so painfully pathetic. i think some of them have even convinced themselves.

    very transparent, no windex needed, and nobody with even half a brain is buying it. they're in it for the money, honey.

    i might even have a tad more respect for them if they would just come clean and admit it. a tad more, but not much.

    if you think the patients at wilcox are getting good care from these opportunistic "nurses" who have been flown in to kaua'i, take a look at the last letter on this page from the kaua'i garden island news:

    http://www.kauaiworld.com/articles/2...ion/edit01.txt
    Last edit by WindwardOahuRN on Sep 24, '06
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    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    Actually, I would think most patients prefer nurses who actually have standards, not ones who undermind those of others in his profession.
    I consider my standards to be far above yours. If your mother or child came into the hospital in critical condition I would not be the one to walk out the next day. Not one nurse EVER has adressed this issue when I bring it up but do as you and windy one does and only hurl out the word "scab."

    You do not undermine other nurses by staying and taking care of patients.The other nurses are not the priority; the patients are. If you don't like where you work resign with notice and leave.
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    Quote from WindwardOahuRN
    If these nurses who cross the picket lines are so altruistic, why not practice their "good deeds" in their own home communities? Why travel thousands of miles to aid the poor hospitalized patients of Hawaii?
    Because you provided them with the opportunity to do so! Personally, I was already coming to Oahu to join my wife who arrived several months earlier. The opportunity for me to work was again presented by you. Do you really think the hospitals are going to close down when you go on strike? Most union hospitals have strike insurance and can outlast you. And how long does it take for nurses to make up all the money they lost...even with a wage increase. And how long do the scars linger (4-5 years in your case) with the warrior approach?

    How about going to some classically underserved areas---Appalachia, inner city areas, New Orleans.
    I usually go to other countries where they really need help.

    Why not? Simple enough. There is a lot more money to be made by crossing picket lines. And wooohooooo----we're going to HAWAII!!!
    Yes, Hawaii is nice but pales in comparison overall to other countries I've been in. And personally, I made less working during the strike than I was previously. But you're just making blanket statements...right?

    I just get such a kick out of how scabs try to justify their "mercenary nursing" by citing saintly intentions. It would be laughable if it weren't so painfully pathetic. I think some of them have even convinced themselves.

    Very transparent, no Windex needed, and nobody with even half a brain is buying it. They're in it for the money, honey.
    Guess you know differently now what happens as a result of your actions.

    If you think the patients at Wilcox are getting good care from these opportunistic "nurses" who have been flown in to Kaua'i, take a look at the last letter on this page from the Kaua'i Garden Island News:
    Thanks for making my point...you should have been inside helping the patient! On the other hand, if you walk out, you expose the type of care or lack of it, to other nurses. At the hospital where I worked, we were treated to horror stories...and that's where I almost quit nursing. The CNAs cried when we left because they knew what it would again be like.

    Now, I refuse to be drawn into this argument so will post no more. I will not lower my standards and ethics to your level.


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