Anyone knowof any NON-Residents getting into KCC ADN program - page 2

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I originally moved here to accompany my husband with a military move for 3 years, and I was finishing my pre-reqs, but just recently found out we aren't moving anytime soon, actually we are stying for 3 more years...SO, now I am... Read More


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    Quote from mcubed45
    did you go to an informational meeting (the one you're supposed to go to before you even start taking pre-reqs)? they make it VERY clear to anyone interested in their nursing program that only official hawaii residents are accepted into their program. they also emphasize that paying resident tuition is NOT the same as being a resident. KCC is a STATE funded public institution. the total cost to train a nursing student is well over $50k. you only pay about $20k in tuition and fees. so yes this policy makes sense.

    no offense but instead of trying to find a way around the system maybe you should consider steps towards becoming an official resident. the fact that you plan on leaving in 3 years is the very reason they do not admit non-residents. why should our state pay for your education only for you to leave right after completing the program?

    sure becoming a resident when you're moving in a couple years might not make much sense for you, but then training a non-resident that plans to leave doesn't make much sense for Hawaii either now does it?

    While I can see the points in the above, I also say there is NO guarantee someone is going to stay instate after graduation...a Hawaii resident could fall in love with a military person and plan on joining them somewhere else after schooling is completed, etc.

    The idea of trying UH is a good suggestion.
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    BG: If you get discouraged by what other people write... please remember me and people like me. Listen to what we write and stay encouraged!

    MCUBED: You wrote, "Why should our state pay for your education only for you to leave right after completing the program?"

    My response: The state is doing exactly that. The people in charge of education KNOW that the job market is near impossible for new grads. They KNOW that new grads cannot get jobs, so they KNOW that new grads are leaving Hawai'i to go to the mainland to find work. They know that "residents" are moving to the mainland right after completeing the program, and they still spend money to educate "resident" students.


    But I digress... Let's get back to the topic of non-residents getting into Kapiolani Community College (KCC). Any other suggestions for BG?
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    Quote from Lisa From Phoenix
    BG: If you get discouraged by what other people write... please remember me and people like me. Listen to what we write and stay encouraged!

    MCUBED: You wrote, "Why should our state pay for your education only for you to leave right after completing the program?"

    My response: The state is doing exactly that. The people in charge of education KNOW that the job market is near impossible for new grads. They KNOW that new grads cannot get jobs, so they KNOW that new grads are leaving Hawai'i to go to the mainland to find work. They know that "residents" are moving to the mainland right after completeing the program, and they still spend money to educate "resident" students.


    But I digress... Let's get back to the topic of non-residents getting into Kapiolani Community College (KCC). Any other suggestions for BG?
    yea you're right. with the current job market they prolly should cut down on admissions. of course then HPU would prolly just increase their admissions and make an even bigger killing. then again, todays current grads were admitted when the job market was flourishing. who's to say that today's new nursing school admissions will have plenty of opporunities several years down the line when they grad? a lot depends on when our older nurses decide to retire. statistically, hawaii's RN force average age is getting up there IIRC.

    also while the job market here is currently pretty dismal, it's quite likely that the new grads being forced to relocate to the mainland will jump at the chance to return once things turn around. the point is that a hawaii resident is a lot more likely to work in hawaii than someone who doesn't want to bother establishing residency while attending school here. investing our state taxes in people that are more likely to stay/return to work in the Hawaii just makes sense.
    Last edit by mcubed45 on Nov 27, '08
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    Quote from bg_renfrow
    I know it is really much easier for a resident vs a non-resident to get in, but...what I really would like to know is do you have any news of any non-residents getting into the program?
    I have all my pre-reqs completed, as well as all my co-reqs (except pharm 203) and I have a GPA of 3.92. I am taking the NLN in January,
    and I really want someone to tell me I am not wasting my time!!!
    Thanks for listening!

    I believe what matters most is your grades and the nursing entrance test. (NET) With that GPA and if you take the NET at University of Hawaii at Manoa School of Nursing, since you only have pharm left which you could do in a summer sesstion at Kapiolani community college, you're better off going to UH Manoa and getting your bachelors for only 1 more year.
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    Quote from BSNStudent808
    I believe what matters most is your grades and the nursing entrance test. (NET) With that GPA and if you take the NET at University of Hawaii at Manoa School of Nursing, since you only have pharm left which you could do in a summer sesstion at Kapiolani community college, you're better off going to UH Manoa and getting your bachelors for only 1 more year.
    manoa accepts non-residents. kcc does not. that's the bottom line.

    btw UHM also accepts NLN scores so if you're considering UHM don't worry about having to take a second different exam. you also don't need to request the NLN exam scores be fowarded to UHM (another $50). UHM will make a copy of your personal score sheet if you bring it in. KCC on the other hand, will ONLY accept NLN scores DIRECT from the NLN. so yea. make sure you designate KCC as the school when you take it.
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    Thank you everyone for your replies...I have looked over the UH Manoa BSN program, and I believe I have a pretty good shot at getting it.
    I will be applying for Fall '09 , which leaves me just enough time to finish the program before my husband will PCS in Fall 2012...If I don't get in on the first try, I will not have enough time to complete the program.
    Wish me luck, and again, thanks for all of your replies, and suggestions.

    Any ideas on how competitive it is to get into to Manoa? A good NET score & a good GPA, anything else seem to factor into the application process? I will go talk with the nursing advisor sometime this week.
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    Quote from bg_renfrow
    Thank you everyone for your replies...I have looked over the UH Manoa BSN program, and I believe I have a pretty good shot at getting it.
    I will be applying for Fall '09 , which leaves me just enough time to finish the program before my husband will PCS in Fall 2012...If I don't get in on the first try, I will not have enough time to complete the program.
    Wish me luck, and again, thanks for all of your replies, and suggestions.

    Any ideas on how competitive it is to get into to Manoa? A good NET score & a good GPA, anything else seem to factor into the application process? I will go talk with the nursing advisor sometime this week.
    pre-reqs:
    http://www.nursing.hawaii.edu/prereq...n-nursing.html

    admission is primarily based on pre-req gpa and test scores. cumulative gpa is also considered (kcc doesn't look at the cumulative). you pretty much need all A's and a few B's with pretty decent scores.

    a couple important things to note is the 6credit limit on retakes and that you must have completed all but your final science courses when you apply.

    Fall Applicants: All prerequisites excluding PHRM 203 must be completed prior to admission into the program. At the time of application, you are allowed to be enrolled in your FINAL science course, science lab, and non-science course.
    Spring Applicants: all prerequisites must be completed prior to admission into the program. At the time of application, you are allowed to be enrolled in your FINAL science course, science lab, and non-science course.
    any courses you'll be taking spring09 do not count as completed since you'll be turning in your app by march 1. i'm not sure which pre-reqs you still need so you might need to find an accelerated winter program if there's more course you need COMPLETED by 3/1/09. i'm guessing you still need your chem? have you done all your labs (micro/A&P)?
    Last edit by mcubed45 on Nov 29, '08
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    Actually I have looked over thh BSN program and I do have all the pre-reqs completed:
    I have taken Chem 151/152, Mirco 130/140, ZOOL 141 & L /ZOOL 142 & L, as well as the ENG, MA & the FG's...I have completed those will all A's
    I have also already met all the graduation requirements for the general education at Manoa (except for thsoe that will be incorporated into the nursing curriculum.)
    So I am feeling a little better now, knowing that hopefully, my time hasn't been wasted.
    I guess if I know we were going to stay here, I should have applied for Sp '09

    Thanks again, and wish me some luck. ANy more advice or suggestions would be appreciated!
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    Quote from bg_renfrow
    Actually I have looked over thh BSN program and I do have all the pre-reqs completed:
    I have taken Chem 151/152, Mirco 130/140, ZOOL 141 & L /ZOOL 142 & L, as well as the ENG, MA & the FG's...I have completed those will all A's
    I have also already met all the graduation requirements for the general education at Manoa (except for thsoe that will be incorporated into the nursing curriculum.)
    So I am feeling a little better now, knowing that hopefully, my time hasn't been wasted.
    I guess if I know we were going to stay here, I should have applied for Sp '09

    Thanks again, and wish me some luck. ANy more advice or suggestions would be appreciated!
    oh that's awesome then. just go meet with a nursing adviser to double check if there's anything else you need. you could always retake courses for a higher grade but i guess since you're applying for fall09 only, the retake grades wouldnt' count when you apply.

    did you already pay for the NLN? the NET is a lot cheaper ($25 IIRC). gotta check on test date availability though.


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