The News We Don't Hear - page 2

this statue is currently on display outside the iraqi palace that is now home to the 4th infantry division. it will eventually be shipped and shown at the memorial museum in fort hood, texas. ... Read More

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    An U.S soldier stands with residents of Sadr City, formerly called Saddam City, a predominately Shiite neighborhood of Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites) Thursday, July 1, 2004, as former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) was scheduled to appear in court. (AP Photo/Karim Kadim)

    And, Moscow what was that you were saying?
    Notice his manner. In each and every photo, he's pointing his finger. That's an "I'm the good guy being picked on by you evil guys" kind of thing. He denies it all. I wonder how he's going to react when he sees films of him cutting the arms off of one man, a tongue out of another man's mouth, and beheading a third one. The last photo is one of an Iraqui soldier kissing his country's flag. I don't see any evidence at all where only 2% of Iraquis like Americans.
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    The Register Guard newspaper of Eugene, Oregon, Are you kidding me? Serioulsy, you are pulling my leg right? The 2% poll isn't even referenced as to where it originated. Again, please tell me you are kidding? This is not even an AP article it actually was written in Eugene, Oregon.

    Again, you are speaking for the Iraqi people without any knowledge yourself. I have spoken with many returning veterans and for the vast majority their statements about the Iraqi people and the U.S. military run contrary to yours.

    You keep speaking of Aya. Sistani, a Shia muslim, "is the only figure in Iraq who can command absolute support and obedience." You do realize ofcourse that a minority of Iraqis are Sunni muslim and don't like Shia muslims? This does not bode well for your statement. Not to mention the Kurds and turkmens in the North.

    Abu Gharib is beyond shame and all involved should be brought to justice.
    Very few of the torturers from Abu Ghraib will face justice. The Shia are a majority, the Sunni are a minority. The Iraqi Shia have defended the Baathists against the Iranian or 'Persian' Shia with determination. The (majority) Shia in the Iraqi army have done so despite intense propaganda by the Iranians, calling on them to do otherwise.

    Grand Ayatollah Sistani is the most important political figure in Iraq. I am not really speaking for the 'Iraqi' people because I am not entirely sure how I would define 'Iraqi' people. I tend to think in classical terms or of Christian Patriarchates. I do not believe that many 'Iraqi' people are particularly fond of the US war, US standards of 'law and order', or of 'human rights' as defined by Paul Bremmer.

    If you like your intelligence hot off the press I can't help you, you need to speak to Seymour Hersh etc. I can tell you this however, the first directive requiring female detainees to be treated with a modicum of decency was issued in April of this year. Until that point they had to endure the co-ed scenes of sexual degradation etc. There were no exceptions for gender, age, medical condition, pregnancy etc.

    Ahmad Chalabi must have had a grin from one side of his face to the other. If Dick Cheney and the neocons had hoped for an oil painting to commemorate the foundation of the new Iraq, then it didn't happen. the US Viceroy scooted away in disgrace. There was no real transfer of power because there was no real power or real authority to transfer.
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    An U.S soldier stands with residents of Sadr City, formerly called Saddam City, a predominately Shiite neighborhood of Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites) Thursday, July 1, 2004, as former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) was scheduled to appear in court. (AP Photo/Karim Kadim)

    And, Moscow what was that you were saying?
    "The mission of the U.S. forces is to kill or capture Muqtada al-Sadr. That's our mission," said Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez of U.S. Central Command on Monday.

    Sadr City is a virtual no-go area for US forces, they enter and leave after the most complex of precautions with video look-ahead etc.

    The US is reliant upon the good grace and permission of somebody they had previously told the media was wanted 'dead or alive'.

    Muqtada al-Sadr never believed the US had the capacity to deliver on their empty threats and he was seemingly quite correct.
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    Notice his manner. In each and every photo, he's pointing his finger. That's an "I'm the good guy being picked on by you evil guys" kind of thing. He denies it all. I wonder how he's going to react when he sees films of him cutting the arms off of one man, a tongue out of another man's mouth, and beheading a third one. The last photo is one of an Iraqui soldier kissing his country's flag. I don't see any evidence at all where only 2% of Iraquis like Americans.
    What happens if the Iraqi tyrant asks for a screening of photography featuring brave US soldiers raping female detainees at Abu Ghraib? The Pentagon had a meeting with the AEI and gave them a set of torture videos.

    There are two strands of thought on the re-election issue, the corporate neocons at AEI and those 'thinking' conservative who wanted the 'female aspects' revealed as far away from the poll as possible. The AEI strategy is a hostage to fate.

    The US media boycotted the AEI screening. The only film they want to see leaked by the Pentagon is of children and women being raped and tortured by US soldiers. The AEI have a crude strategy.


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