Nursing.....Air Force or Navy?? - page 2

Hello, I've been lurking around here for some months know and have found lots of great information..but I still have questions. I am currently enrolled in a 4 yr. BSN program and will graduate in 2... Read More

  1. by   Allemse
    Quote from wtbcrna
    The AF calls them unaccompanied tours. There are few tours like that for nurses in the AF. Korea & Turkey are the top ones and all the nurses I have worked with have done these on volunteer only basis. Most people do the unaccompanied tours in order to have their choice of stations afterwards.
    I remember going to Turkey when I was little, we were in Incirlik AB. It was fun, but I remember being sick alot!! Somethng to do with cement factories there. I was born in Okinawa, Japan, on an army base, guess the AF didn't have a great hospital facility. Anyway, I guess that's why the military is on my mind, I miss the traveling, and new experiences. Since my husband had to get out early, our experience was cut short.
    Thanks for all of your help!
  2. by   DanznRN
    Allemse-

    I think mainly that want to know you have a good background, physically well, and that you perform well in school. Aside from that, you r guess is as good as mine. I would think the application numbers are down significantly from when I applied. I was not a genius in school, but I was getting a dual degree, one in Nursing and one in Business. I had a 3.39 GPA when I graduated from undergrad, again no genius. I had no major medical problems and my background was clean aside from a bunch of speeding tickets. If you have anything in your past that proves are a good leader, make it known, they love good leaders. When you do your application you have to go back about 10 years for addresses and personal references, so get a list together. Basically the FBI or CIA or NSA, one of those does an indepth background check, including your credit history. Make sure that is all in line or that discrepancies can be adequately explained. The application is all paperwork except for the physical part, any major medical issues for you? Let me know.

    LCDR(s) Dan
  3. by   Allemse
    Only mediacl problems are high blood pressure, which would hopefully come down when I lose some weight! As far as for the credit....ours is not the best right now....long story.
    My husband worked for Conoco-Philips oil refinery, he was an operator there, made pretty good money working there. But since his spinal fusion, he can't go back to work, right now he's in the process of getting disability. At his work, if you are out sick for more than 6 months, after that 6 month mark they drop your pay down to 50%!! so things have gotten behind till his disability goes through. He had disability insurance, and if he couldn't work it would pay off our cars, we had them financed through the credit union at his work. So, soon those will be taken care of and we can get everything else straightened out.
    So, would that be a problem? When we get our income tax return, we are paying off alot of stuff. What if, let's say in 1 year, I apply and everything had been paid off or is being paid on time? Would that make a difference?
  4. by   MCHnurse
    Quote from Allemse
    So, would that be a problem? When we get our income tax return, we are paying off alot of stuff. What if, let's say in 1 year, I apply and everything had been paid off or is being paid on time? Would that make a difference?
    Hi Allemse,

    I just wanted to put in my 2 cents on this. I am currently in nursing school and have emassed a HUGE amount of debt (my husband was also finishing his degree as I entered school so two of us were full-time students with no income and 2 kids). I was very worried about my debt when I applied to the Navy, but apparently it wasn't a big deal. They accepted me, debt and all. Hopefully that puts your mind at ease.

    Jennifer
  5. by   Allemse
    Jennifer,
    Thanks for the 2 cents!! I do feel a little better...but still just wonder. Guess I will until I apply and see!!
    Another question, when you do apply, do you need to be inshape then?? I know i need to get into shape and I know i need to do it now..but what if I'm not where I need to be when i apply?
    Another thing is....I was wondering how common is it for the wife to be the head of house, so to speak? I know they have all of these clubs and groups for military wives, but not for husbands?? My husband brought this up because in the AF the wifes role of social butterfly helped in her husbands promotions....he was wondering if that applied in the Navy too, or if it stil applies at all, since things have changed over the years.
    Thanks, Sharon
  6. by   navynurse06
    Allemse,
    It's very common for the wife to be the "head of the house" as you say. There is a club that the navy's spouse have (i'm not sure of the name right now) that used to send my husband all kinds of stuff in the mail. But he has no desire to be in any of those clubs. I find it so annoying when I tell people that I'm married and they assume that my husband is in the service too! Which of course he isn't; and has never had any desire to be.
    To answer your question about getting in shape...I did the NCP program. Part of the application process is MEPS; you will be weighed there. If you are over wt. for the navy standards than that could be a disqual. factor for you. This being said....the wt standards are pretty soft....I'm 5'8" and my maxt wt is 170 lbs. That's pretty heafty! Also, the process of beign accpeted to NCP program takes quite a while! The sign on bonus now is $10,000 with $1000/month stipend. You will get $5000 of the bonus up front then $5000 six months later.
    Hope this answers some of those lingering questions.
    ENS PM
  7. by   Allemse
    Quote from navynurse06
    Allemse,
    It's very common for the wife to be the "head of the house" as you say. There is a club that the navy's spouse have (i'm not sure of the name right now) that used to send my husband all kinds of stuff in the mail. But he has no desire to be in any of those clubs. I find it so annoying when I tell people that I'm married and they assume that my husband is in the service too! Which of course he isn't; and has never had any desire to be.
    To answer your question about getting in shape...I did the NCP program. Part of the application process is MEPS; you will be weighed there. If you are over wt. for the navy standards than that could be a disqual. factor for you. This being said....the wt standards are pretty soft....I'm 5'8" and my maxt wt is 170 lbs. That's pretty heafty! Also, the process of beign accpeted to NCP program takes quite a while! The sign on bonus now is $10,000 with $1000/month stipend. You will get $5000 of the bonus up front then $5000 six months later.
    Hope this answers some of those lingering questions.
    ENS PM

    Yes, you did answer some of my other questions! Thank you!! What do you mean "up front"? Is that when you are accepted into the ncp that you get the "up front" half?
  8. by   DanznRN
    Allemse-

    As far as the debt/ credit stuff is concerned, if you are clearing it up and what not, it shouldn't be a problem. I only bring it up because they made a huge deal when I applied, something to the effect of "if you can't care for your own finances, how are going to care for the Navy's?" kind of BS. At the time I didn't think anything of it, but when I went to Italy that's when things got interesting, i had been in for 7 years already. Once we got there we sent change of address forms to EVERYONE. Well, mail takes 2-3 weeks to get back and forth. During the time we were exchanging corresponence with our creditors they got ticked because we were moving out of the country like they weren't going to get paid anymore, starting sending nastygrams and what not. Next thing I know I have to go to the CO because the Navy had done a check on my finances and seen what was going on. They thought we were trying to get out of our bills, long story short, it was a HUGE misunderstanding and we had to put it all down in black and white to explain it. It was a big pain, but even after you get in, they are watching, so you have to stay clean. Goes for the rest of you too, believe it, Big Brother is watching.

    As for the getting inshape part, start now. Like was said above you need to be within Navy standards when you go to apply. Start watching what you're eating lose some weight and get the blood pressure down. You don't want to give them any reason to reject you. Do push-ups, sit-ups and start running. Look up the standards for the PRT via Google to see where you need to be.


    LCDR(s) Dan
  9. by   dragonheart
    I was a Navy Medical Programs(RN/MD) recruiter. My recommedation is that you speak with a Nurse Recruiter. Everyone's situation is different. The best way to the respond that is most applicable to you would be to share your career plans with a medical programs recruiter.
    Check www.navy.com/healthcare/nursing
    Last edit by dragonheart on Jan 30, '07
  10. by   Gennaver
    Quote from DanznRN
    ...the Navy had done a check on my finances and seen what was going on. They thought we were trying to get out of our bills, long story short, it was a HUGE misunderstanding and we had to put it all down in black and white to explain it. It was a big pain, but even after you get in, they are watching, so you have to stay clean. Goes for the rest of you too, believe it, Big Brother is watching.

    ...LCDR(s) Dan
    Hello LCDR,

    Okay, I was naive...sure I know that almost every hospital I have worked at has run a credit check alongside with their criminal background check but, I really didn't think it went much beyond that.

    So, obviously I realize now that the Army has run a credit check on me, (YIKES my student loans!)

    I have a piggyback debt question if you please.

    My only loans and lines of credit right now are for my education loans, (including alternative lenders and the government lenders) as well as a cellphone and DSL service.

    So, is it the amount of loans you have or any late payments and what not that is a flag? I think that my student loans come up to about 130K all said when done, (UG and Grad and for cost of total attendance).

    Kind of makes me wonder if this was a reason the review board passed me up at the second time!

    Thanks in advance,
    Gen
    p.s. I grew up under the suspicion that big brother tracks, (my father is an ex cop and my brother works in research marketing...big brother knows our movements...kind of makes me wonder if any of my own normal activities could be viewed as deviant or not!!)
  11. by   Allemse
    Gen,
    You brought up a good point! I will also have college loan debt around $130,000 by the time I'm done!!!! Paying for daycare really added up!!! Will this be looked at when they do a credit check??
    Thanks,
    Sharon
  12. by   MCHnurse
    Well it sounds like us girls are all in good company. I too have debt that exceeds $100K. That includes student loans, credit cards, and cars. YIKES! I'm a penny-pincher and I'm already devising a very aggressive payback plan. Certainly my sign-on bonus and loan repayment from the Navy will help. It sounds like I need to be really proactive if I'm ever stationed overseas. I can't believe that the credit card company did that to you LCDR Dan!! Even scarier is that Big Brother knew just as much about your situation as you did...perhaps even more than you did!
  13. by   navynurse06
    Up front means when your paperwork goes through and you are finally accepted to the NCP program.

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