- by angel Jul 11, '05How many gov't nurses have used the NNEI program to get BSN or MSN?
Was ALL of you education paid for????
We have 4 nurse that utilized the program & then told opps we have no monies & got stuck with BIG $$$ in our own pocket...When we tried to get out of the contrat told "BREACH of Contract"...
Then when we graduated 4 days to 2wks early told Breach of Contract & had to send letter of apology to gov't that we graduated early....
Blah!!! the program was terrible...I'm in my 50's went back got no congrats, no evaluation of proficiency for 3yrs & no raise...Nata....Stuck with $17,000 I owe...Not the only nurse either...
- Jul 22, '05 by BadBirdThat is hard to believe, I work with several nurses that have utilized NNEI money for their education including my nurse manager. Myself and another nurse just got accepted and will be starting a accelerated RN to BSN program next month. There are only a few nurses that don't have a BSN where I work and the majority did use NNEI without any problems. I wonder if it was your particular VISIN that had difficulty? Well anyway I will keep my eyes open.
- Dec 11, '05 by ZorbaI graduated with my BSN and was given a commitment that does not coincide with the formulas set forth with the NNEI guideline requirements. I have talk with other RN's from the exact same program and all were given different lengths of commitment to fulfill their obligation to NNEI. Has anyone else experienced these inconsistencies pertaining to the commitments post graduation????
According to the guidelines of NNEI, they state that they require the enrollee to repay time for "coursework" taken at an approved school. I have taken 5 Dante's (clep tests for credits), at $50 per test for 15 credit hours or $250. NNEI is telling me that these are to be calculated along with the coursework I attended during my attendance in the BSN program. This they say, will change my commitment time of 19 mos to 3 years????? I find this hard to believe.
If anyone has had any of these problems or recognized the inconsistencies in determining their commitment post graduation, please respond to this post or send me a note privately.
Thank you for your time.
- Dec 16, '05 by nuberianne_RNWhat is NNEI?
- Dec 16, '05 by ZorbaNational Nursing Education Initiative
- Aug 24, '06 by fairwrenI wish I had talked to you BEFORE I got the NNEI. I took time off when my Dad was sick and died. They denied the waiver request, and based the denial (verbally) because they don't reissue monies to the same individual. The VA that I work for had misappropriated the funds. Now the local VA has made right on that, but the Federal VA is still billing me for $10,000 for what they spent, saying that I was in breach when I took the time off. What are they thinking?
Long and short, I'm trying to find an attorney that will file a class action suit, if there are enough of us. If not it's off to Washington I go. I am not one to just take it. There are others at my VA that had the same thing happen to them, but they just paid, and kept quiet.
Anyone with any similiar situations. Please write me if you don't mind sharing.
I don't think that the Senate meant for this to happen to a group of professionals that they are courting to stay.
- Aug 25, '06 by ZorbaHello,
The people in New Orleans, specifically Mary Raymer and Marisa Palkuti, are the individuals in charge of the NNEI. I have been in correspondence with them multiple times regarding the inaccurate computation of work obligation r/t the length of the nursing program. It seems from what I found out is that they typically will require 3 years of service regardless of how their formula actually tabulates out.
To support my accusations, I instituted the Freedon of Information Act (FOIA) to get specific information regarding the nurses at our VA that received NNEI funding. What I uncovered was appalling!!!!!! Not only did I now have PROOF of the inaccuracies, the FOIA uncovered that the program director at our facility was not being an advocate of the recipients at our facility. When I presented the information to Raymer and Palkuti, they actually had the audacity to tell me the findings were immaterial and didn't mean anything.
I have presented this to the president of the AFGE 3669 nursing union who informed me that there was a national problem with the NNEI program and requested a copy of the FOIA information I uncovered. She was going to take this information and also present it to individuals in DC, who, I'm not sure of. I would like to forward your message to her if you don't have any objections.
I, too, am requesting a waiver in writing r/t leaving the VA and after my ACTUAL work commitment is fulfilled. I found out that I am 2 history credits short of my degree (BSN), so they made me In Breach of Contract. I also have worked over 2 years after leaving the nursing program. My actual work commitment should have been 1 year 9 months and a few days instead it was easy for them to tell me 3 years. The formula IS NOT complicated even though the Program Director, who is PhD. prepared, told me it was. Since I left the VA, they withheld my vacation pay and billed me for the amount that I was funded. I was able to negotiate at least a portion of the money from the financial director at my VA for living expenses until I was able to develop an income after leaving the VA.
- Mar 3, '07 by fairwrenI am having a nightmare with my NNEI, and I know another nurse that would join us in a class action suit, and there may be more if we can get someone to represent us.
I was looking for an attorney for myself, as I have been fighting this for 3 years now.
We need to organize. I think a website would be a good place to start, so we all have somewhere to organize information and contacts
Please contact me, and let's get this going. It is an optimal time with the Walter Reed bad PR coming up this week.
I am in VISN 6.
Today I got yet another denial letter for waiver from Marissa Palkuti - anyone else know that name? How about Kathy Heaphy, esq, atty for the General Counsel.
I have lots of names dates and experience with this so far
Contact me at:
- Mar 9, '07 by PompomI finish my BSN program March 27th. So far NNEI has paid for everything, no problems. My contract spelled out exactly what was expected including 3 yrs. work to pay it back, I knew going into the contract what was expected.
- Jul 21, '07 by izmikei was working on my master's degree, utilizing the nnei and completing the first year, when i had to take a leave of absence due to serious problems with two teenagers. i did so with the full understanding of our nursing education office (visn 17) and ms. raymer in new orleans. very long and painful story to be kept short, i have just received a letter telling me that i must pay back over $6000.00 and ms. raymer will not respond to my e-mails. i am now working in visn 19 and plan to resume my msn degree. from what i am being told, i am "s.o.l." even if i complete the degree. this is not what i call fair and i am dealing with a system that is not family oriented. the veterans administration will have the benefit of my advanced degree, i will not be given reimbursement and i still have to pay the nnei fund back. i honestly feel as though i am dealing with a bunch of heartless bureaucrats that don't give a flip about me, my family and from what i am reading, many other hard working career va nurses. i would be very interested in speaking with others considering a class action law suit. this is the last thing i want but feel i am being given no other alternative. as an interesting side note, for the last several months i have been working so much overtime that i don't have the time or energy to put up much of a fight. i would so appreciate any help/suggestions.
Quote from fairwreni wish i had talked to you before i got the nnei. i took time off when my dad was sick and died. they denied the waiver request, and based the denial (verbally) because they don't reissue monies to the same individual. the va that i work for had misappropriated the funds. now the local va has made right on that, but the federal va is still billing me for $10,000 for what they spent, saying that i was in breach when i took the time off. what are they thinking?
long and short, i'm trying to find an attorney that will file a class action suit, if there are enough of us. if not it's off to washington i go. i am not one to just take it. there are others at my va that had the same thing happen to them, but they just paid, and kept quiet.
anyone with any similiar situations. please write me if you don't mind sharing.
i don't think that the senate meant for this to happen to a group of professionals that they are courting to stay.