Tell me...is this appropriate??? I think not! - page 2

Yesterday, I had to re-certify for my BLS/CPR. I took a class at a school that teaches CNA/LPN courses and offers "quick certification". I am not even certain if they are accredited. Anyway, the... Read More

  1. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from CHATSDALE
    REPORT IT!!!!!

    how would you feel if your life depended on the knowledge exhibited by the students?
    I second this.

    I'd hate to have been a first-time learner in that class. I'd also hate it if that kind of education is what a pt. is depending on for me to help them in their emergency.
  2. by   Franksters
    Report it. These same people may very well get through LPN school!! I am a RN x 17 years. All these "creative" or "accelerated" programs are a crock of ****. In my state, if you have a degree in ANYTHING, you can receive a 2 year nsg degree after going to school for only 1 year!!! So I could have a basic Arts and Sciences degree, go to "nursing school" for 1 year and be a RN?!?!! It's harder to become a CNA!!!
  3. by   Megsd
    Quote from Franksters
    Report it. These same people may very well get through LPN school!! I am a RN x 17 years. All these "creative" or "accelerated" programs are a crock of ****. In my state, if you have a degree in ANYTHING, you can receive a 2 year nsg degree after going to school for only 1 year!!! So I could have a basic Arts and Sciences degree, go to "nursing school" for 1 year and be a RN?!?!! It's harder to become a CNA!!!

    I'm not going to say much about this because it's off topic, but accelerated nursing programs are accredited in the same manner and held to the same standards are traditional nursing programs and are not a crock of anything, in general. No need to knock these programs. The education is the same, it is simply condensed into a shorter time frame. And it took me 2 weeks to become a CNA, so I disagree that it's harder at all.

    Back on topic, I'd definitely report it. The behavior was clearly unacceptable and I doubt that it's appropriate for the school that held the class to advertise its programs to people in CPR class. The CPR class is an AHA class and should ONLY represent AHA. The school should really not butt in at all with its own agenda. I took my CPR at a fire station, but the chief didn't come in and encourage me to become a firefighter after I passed my test. That's just silly.
  4. by   carolinapooh
    Quote from Franksters
    Report it. These same people may very well get through LPN school!! I am a RN x 17 years. All these "creative" or "accelerated" programs are a crock of ****. In my state, if you have a degree in ANYTHING, you can receive a 2 year nsg degree after going to school for only 1 year!!! So I could have a basic Arts and Sciences degree, go to "nursing school" for 1 year and be a RN?!?!! It's harder to become a CNA!!!
    I am so sorry for going here, and I'm sure a mod will remove this post b/c it's going to go WAAAYYYY off topic, but I can't help it. I'm a student in one of these ABSN programs you're slamming (sixteen months - a "standard" BSN program only has FOUR SEMESTERS OR SO OF ACTUAL NURSING COURSES) and have formulated my own opinion of your stance based on your own words and "virtual actions" here, if you will. I will keep these views to myself.

    What I will say is this: my sixteen-month ABSN program here at Duke is only about three weeks shorter than nearby UNC's "traditional" two-year program - which is, in reality, only five semesters of nursing courses - the same amount as most any BSN program. The only difference for me is I will go STRAIGHT through for sixteen months, with only about four weeks off spread out over that time period. Our summer session is as long as our semesters, during which we will cover two semester's worth of material. We cover the exact same material as traditional programs and have an outstanding NCLEX pass rate.

    I have already proven my proficiency in arts and sciences by obtaining my first undergrad 'cum laude', and got straight A's in all my science prereqs (including a year of organic chemistry) before starting nursing school this past fall. Sixteen of my ABSN hours are at the Master's level and will transfer as graduate level courses when I pursue my ACNP degree - including Applied Statistics, Diagnostic Reasoning/Physical Assessment (the same one the NP students take), Nursing Research, and Pathophysiology. I'm currently in the Stats class - but I took the physical assessment course and MSN level Patho last semester, and got A's in both of them - no mean feat. So before you start slamming these "crock of ****" (your words) programs, stop to think - we're not quite as underqualified as you seem to believe we are.

    That said (thanks to all for allowing me to vent) I will say that the OP should report this to every agency who needs to know. Keeping quiet exacerbates the problem. If someone doesn't report her, why would she stop being this ridiculous at any point?
  5. by   jill48
    After reading the original post, at first I thought maybe you should just let it go. But then, after thinking about it, I had a picture in my head of a person needing CPR and none of these people being able to perform it. And that really P'd me off. Even though I think you need to choose your battles, I think this is one that you should choose to take on. I would. I would call the American Heart Association, call the school and demand my money back, and call the State Board of Nursing. Good luck.
  6. by   LogCabinMom
    Man!! I would be so p'd off!! I don't think I would have been able to keep my mouth shut... I just can't tolerate authority figures abusing their authority, and you should DEFINITELY report it!!

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