Group project rant - page 5

It really annoys me when you have a total of 4 people involved in a group project, two are actually doing the work, one doesn't even bother to show up for class (or shows up over an hour late when he... Read More

  1. by   hopefully
    You mean all of you would rat students out on non graded assignments to the instructor because they in your view did not contribute to the assignment? Come on now, you guys are best to be avoided. Some students don't have the knowledge base in their head or some just don't want to be in a group. I know that in nursing schools, you don't trust anyone and this is just a good example of it. Geez, I better step it up some in my group projects before some of my fellow classmates would rat me out to the instructor! Thanks for the heads up! I better watch my back!
  2. by   SKM-NURSIEPOOH
    Quote from hopefully
    i don't think it is right. when you work on projects that are non graded, some students are not going to show up or would care less about the assignment because it carries no weight. and you would rat those people out also to the instructor on a non graded group assignment. i am not a troll but i do not agree with you handling the situation like that. it is best that students avoid you.
    this is about group projects & how *some* people won't hold their end-up. whether the project is weighted or not is irrelevant!!! people should (& do get) just what they put into making the project work. this is not about *ratting* people out either...so don't you dare make this thread about you hopefully :angryfire. why should anybody get by on others back just because they don't *like* doing group projects...how dumb is that?

    your problem is that you're one of *those* people who get-by on the coat-tail of others' efforts & feel somewhat threaten that this *might* happen to you someday. well grow-up...this is life! if you as an adult student *decide* not to participate in a group project....then don't be surprised when you're exposed for not participating! that's not your peers' problem...it would be *yours* no matter what excuse you produced. how on earth can you pass it off that you've prepared for the project...but didn't? how is that your classmates' responsibility? and...how is that ethical? when the crap finally hit the fan...you bet your bottom dollar i'm going to duck & let it hit those who've left themselves totally exposed.

    in marie's case senario...the girl tried to play marie & the other participant as if it was *their* fault for *her* not being able to participate & hold her own weight. that's childish, immature, & unethical behavior! that's like having somebody else write a paper for you & you put your name on it & submit it as your work. that's called cheating! if this individuals' big fat zero cost her to have to repeat this entire course...then sooooo be it! i say it's a expensive lesson learned...*she* made that choice when *she* decided not to take the project & her peers seriously! that's the consequences *she* took! the same goes for the other guy who left them hanging too. he got exactly what he put into the project...zero!

    enough said ~ moe
  3. by   SKM-NURSIEPOOH
    Quote from hopefully
    you mean all of you would rat students out on non graded assignments to the instructor because they in your view did not contribute to the assignment? come on now, you guys are best to be avoided. some students don't have the knowledge base in their head or some just don't want to be in a group. i know that in nursing schools, you don't trust anyone and this is just a good example of it. geez, i better step it up some in my group projects before some of my fellow classmates would rat me out to the instructor! thanks for the heads up! i better watch my back!
    it's not about being in *our* view...it's about the simple fact that....*they did not doooooooo the work!!!!*

    if you can't get that then you must be a troll :angryfire!

    moe
  4. by   hopefully
    Quote from skm-nursiepooh
    it's not about being in *our* view...it's about the simple fact that....*they did not doooooooo the work!!!!*

    if you can't get that then you must be a troll :angryfire!

    moe
    most of my group projects, i don't do the work. do i care? no, i do not. i pay attention to the graded stuff. an intelligent person would probably not care less about the group project either because it is not graded. why then rat people out on something that is not going to effect them in anyway? it just does not make any sense.
  5. by   SKM-NURSIEPOOH
    Quote from hopefully
    most of my group projects, i don't do the work. do i care? no, i do not. i pay attention to the graded stuff. an intelligent person would probably not care less about the group project either because it is not graded. why then rat people out on something that is not going to effect them in anyway? it just does not make any sense.
    why bother to take the course then? why bother to participate in class? why bother asking or answering questions?

    people bother because that's what's expected of them. doing "ungraded" group projects is no more than say doing your daily assigments...but it must be done. what if everyone took your attitude & no work got done. hummmm....don't ya think the professor would take notice & then would make future projects "weighted?"

    again...this thread topic *is* about people not holding their weight in a *graded* group project. they got what they've decided to put into...period! it's not about "ratting" people out...but people taking responsibility for what actions *they* put forth.

    cheers,
    moe
  6. by   Race Mom
    In June 2003, I got my AS degree in Pharmacy Technology.
    I have an AA degree in Pharmacy Technolgy.
    Hi. I have a BA degree in Sociology.
    hmmmmm...which is it?

    I think classmates should help one another.
    Anyway, if you help a person, it makes a person appear better. This is just my opinion.
    I believe a good enviroment is being a team player.
    I am a nursing student now and I know how productive being a team player is.
    Although...
    I hate rats.
    Anyway, I hate rats.
    Nope, she was just a stupid rat.
    I found this article in the internet about snitching. I agree with the article 100%
    You Snitch, You Disappear
    wow! Even searching the internet for it!

    stop the snitching
    Nothing is worth ratting on someone. Nothing. End of lesson.
    Don't rat them out. You think you are going to save the whole friggen world if you rat them out? No, you are not. People cheat all the time in every aspect of life. You are not going to make a difference. Who cares if they cheat.
    To me, a snitch, tattle tale is a scumbag.

    And for the finale...the true colors shining through...
    Sometimes you can sense how a person is by how they act and look at people.
    I just started also and I am not doing too well
    This may be a little overboard, but I hate to see people arguing with this guy! Just be glad you aren't in school with him!

    If I must take a warning for this, I'm ok with that. I just thought some of us would like to see the consistancy of his work.

    Woogy
  7. by   LoriAlabamaRN
    [quote=Woogy]hmmmmm...which is it?







    Although...




    wow! Even searching the internet for it!









    And for the finale...the true colors shining through...



    This may be a little overboard, but I hate to see people arguing with this guy! Just be glad you aren't in school with him!

    If I must take a warning for this, I'm ok with that. I just thought some of us would like to see the consistancy of his work.

    Woogy[/quote


    Way to go Woogy!
  8. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from hopefully
    I dont think it is right. When you work on projects that are non graded, some students are not going to show up or would care less about the assigment because it carries no weight. And you would rat those people out also to the instructor on a non graded group assignment. I am not a TROLL but I do not agree with you handling the situation like that. It is best that students avoid you.
    Strange, i would almost say the same thing about someone who's said that don't do any work in a group project proven they don't contribute to a group project, graded or ungraded, unless people like getting stuck with more work.

    Most of my group projects, I don't do the work. Do I care? No, I do not. I pay attention to the graded stuff. An intelligent person would probably not care less about the group project either because it is not graded. Why then rat people out on something that is not going to effect them in anyway? It just does not make any sense
    Again, you're missing the point. Intelligent or not, has nothing to do with it, it's the principle of the project, which is teamwork.

    You're more focused on the "ratting." This isn't high school, this is college, and when people are depending on you to do your part in a group project, don't expect to get a free ride through it. And when the assignment is everyone participates, everyone SHOULD participate. There's nothing that doesn't make no sense about it.

    You're trying to rationalize non-participation by calling those that do something about it 'rats', therefore attempting to focus on something other than the actual subject of this thread. So i'm having a sense of deja vu from another thread, after i looked up a few thing, when i'd thought to myself 'hmm i've seen this kind of response before". While i'll continue to read and participate in this thread as long as it's going, i'm no longer going to beat the dead horse with you.
  9. by   LoriAlabamaRN
    I think it is much more "ratty" to let other people do your work and then take credit for it. Don't blame us for people in your classes talking badly about you behind your back and to your teachers- I am sure they already do that on their own. I consider your full name to be "HOPEFULLY, this person won't ever be a nurse!" But we'll just call you Hopefully for short, 'kay?
  10. by   Nurse Ratched
    Marie:

    I'm sorry your vent thread took an ugly turn. I've been in your shoes and have dragged others kicking an screaming through their part of the group project. It stinks.

    Since the focus of the thread has taken an altogether different turn to focus on one person, I'm going to give this a gentle close.

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