Off the clock - page 3
Just an informal survey. What would you do if you knew one of your co workers was punching out, then coming back and doing her charting, all to avoid "getting in trouble" for too much overtime ? I know she is doing this. I know... Read More
- 0Mar 3, '13 by SleeepyRNWhen I worked the LTC unit and Alzheimer's unit 30-40 residents each perspectively, I got everything done on time and didn't have to work late. It was only when I worked the skilled floor that I had a REAL hard time getting out on time. And I'll be honest. If I did get out on time, it was because I cut corners. That's not the nurse I want to be. I want to have better orientation and learn to manage my time.
- 0Mar 3, '13 by exit96There could be many variables to this, my thoughts are as follows:
1-Would the employer "go to bat for you" in a court case if your work in question was done "off the clock?" Or would they find this very convenient to bail their own butt out?
also: the facility/employer is physically responsible for you while you are in the building. IMHO they are stupid for allowing this top happen. Ever heard of LIABILITY?
2- Yes it is a dis-service to other nurses by doing work for FREE.
side note (not to derail thread)-If this facility has a Union this is a grievance situation. (If you are anti-union or do not have a union maybe this is a teaching moment...)
3- The NM is probably a token NM...you know, just another individual who wants the status of saying "I am in management," they rub elbows with the other management folks, eat at their table, BUT do not want anything to do with being someone who is actually involved in managing the staff...this type are a dime a dozen..." You may be able to tell that I have no use/respect for weak 'leaders.'
4- If this person habitually does this I would assume that they have some real time management issues...gets me wondering "what else may be being left undone???"
5- Or, to be the optimist, maybe this individual is just very "chatty" and provides excellent patient care to fault that she doesn't get some of the 'boring' work done on time, like charting?? However, charting is really what will save our butts if done correctly.
I wonder- is the charting pertinent? Or is it some of the irrelevant 'fluff' that besets some nurses??
Here's a thought- has anyone offered to help her prioritize? Is she open to that?
My "bottom line"...this should not be going on. Would I engage the battle?..I would need more info, but only to justify not doing something about inappropriate/possibly detrimental activities in the workplace.
- 2Mar 4, '13 by tiroka03I agree with noyesno, when an employer assigns too much work, too heavy a patient load, and then one employee works off the clock, their co-workers are then expected to do the same. Management will say, "They can do it in 8 hours time, - why can't you?"
- 1Mar 4, '13 by nurse2033Everyone is responsible for unethical behavior. When you say "it's not my business" you are turning your back on your profession and colleagues. I agree with a number of posters; employers will come to expect "free" work, it's illegal, and it is bad for that employee-even though it is by their choice. This should be brought to the attention of risk management or HR.
- 0Mar 9, '13 by jbecerraI did bring it to management's attention. I was told "Don't worry about it." So.....I don't worry about it. Shame on management and shame on the nurse if something happens. I can't worry about what every one else does. I need to worry about me, and am I doing my job as well as I should.
- 0Mar 9, '13 by lmccrn62This is illegal to be expected to work off the clock. There are times that the shift is horrendous and we need to stay. The manager needs to do a intervention with this nurse looking at her time management. I have worked with nurses like this as well as manage them and their biggest problem is they are unable to budget their time and believe they are responsible for every task that needs to be done is completed on their shift. It's why it's 24 hour care.