Need advice...life threatened by pt's family today

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Hi all,

I'm a charge RN at a chronic hemodialysis unit for a major dialysis group. We have a pt who's 16 with not only a slew of health problems but also some major psycho-social issues that extend to her mother and grandfather (who was found to actually be her father through dna testing at their prior clinic). To paint a clear picture of this family would take a while, so I'll cut to the chase. The grandfather today stated to 2 of our patients in the lobby that I would not be at that clinic past September and that he was going to bring in a gun and shoot me. This was after appx 1 hour of time spent by myself and my administrator talking with the mother and grandfather...talkng is actually too nice a word...this was more a pointless rambling by both about everything from our request that the mother remain in the waiting room during the pt's put on and take off to their mistrust of the black nurses in the facility. Both the grandfather and mother are those types of people we as nurses dread dealing with b/c they are completely irrational and skip from topic to topic...they are definitely not operating with a full deck, not to mention the whole incest issue. They've been disruptive to other patients and have bad mouthed the care received at our clinic to the transportation drivers, other pts, anyone who will probably listen, which has no basis at all...all of our other pts love our clinic and look forward to spending time with our staff. We've gone out of our way to accomodate the special needs of the pt and the family since their family dynamic is such a complicated one, all with the best interest of the 16 yo pt in mind.

Anyway, after I was told of this threat by the pts who he told, I immediately told my FA, the MD medical director, and the FA who's over ours and 4 other clinics. She contacted risk mgmt...we were told this afternoon that the police dept was contacted and a complaint filed, the mother and grandfather were contacted separately & told that the g'father was banned from our clinic/parking lot/grounds, etc and that 911 would be called immediately if he came onto our property, an armed security guard will be in our clinic on Friday and all next week. Of course the g'father denied the threats. However, he is so off his rocker, he is just the type of loose cannon that you'd see on the news. These people are just plain crazy.

My question is, how do I deal with this?!? The g'father stated to our senior FA that he thought I was a 'jellyfish' b/c I was letting a newly hired FA 'run all over me' (who is black)...she's not running all over me, she's the boss! This is the same reason he gave to the other 2 pts for killing me. I am scared and hurt b/c I just do not understand his screwed up rationale...I know you can't try to understand the thought process of a crazy person, but I just don't get it. I have never done anything to this family and have bent over backwards to accomodate them and their screwed up situation, have listened when I was ready to pull my hair out, and still been nothing but kind. So I'm hurt as well, I suppose.

Also, what are my rights as a nurse? Do I have the right to refuse to interact with them or does that go out the window when you're the charge nurse? Should I take advantage of the ECP counseling thing or whatever it's called lest this come back to rear it's head with me 5 years down the road?

Any input is appreciated here...sorry for the length...:sniff:

As a Registered Psychiatric Nurse in Canada for 40 years, I suggest that the employer is obligated to protect the employee both at work and off-duty.

Please note that the behaviour described is bad behaviour and not all bad behaviour is evidence of a treatable psychiatric disorder. His use of violence has met his needs in his family and in the rest of his community.

Considering the genetic information for this young woman is she of an age in your community requiring reporting of sexual abuse by this man???

I want to state that being Canadian is NOT protection against increasing violent behaviour in health care work places. As nurses, we are at a higher risk for injury on duty than police officers. Unfortunately, we seem to blame OURSELF when someone else's behaviour harms us.

So, risk management is involved. Good for now.

If you are unionized, is your union involved???

As a Registered Psychiatric Nurse in Canada for 40 years, I suggest that the employer is obligated to protect the employee both at work and off-duty.

Please note that the behaviour described is bad behaviour and not all bad behaviour is evidence of a treatable psychiatric disorder. His use of violence has met his needs in his family and in the rest of his community.

Considering the genetic information for this young woman is she of an age in your community requiring reporting of sexual abuse by this man???

I want to state that being Canadian is NOT protection against increasing violent behaviour in health care work places. As nurses, we are at a higher risk for injury on duty than police officers. Unfortunately, we seem to blame OURSELF when someone else's behaviour harms us.

So, risk management is involved. Good for now.

If you are unionized, is your union involved???

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