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- Mar 15, '09 by FireStarterRNQuote from feralnostalgiaMy referring to sociologists in their ivory towers as smug is entirely my opinion and I'm entitled to it. I find much of sociology to exemplify all that is ridiculous in academia. It was one of the more absurd classes I took in college.exactly as much as your rude comments about sociology as a discipline did....except that nearly all of the founding fathers were deists and that the majority of american protestant denominations were founded after the constitution was written. and most Jews I know find the term "Judeo-Christian" ridiculous.
- Mar 15, '09 by feralnostalgiaQuote from FireStarterRNfunny, a lot of sociologists from the symbolic interactionist school have been known for things like living on the streets for extended periods of time to be with the homeless in a direct way. I don't see "ivory tower" in this at all. you're more than entitled to your opinion and you're more than entitled to expect people to call you on it. posting disparaging remarks on a post about sensitivity to cultural diversity, did you expect people would just pat you on the back for insulting the OP and an academic discipline that often makes caring about people's well-being central to its focus? Sociology is a scientifically rigorous discipline that has contributed significantly to fields like public health and epidemiology. nursing would be less without input from other sciences, this is just as true for social sciences like sociology and psychology as it is for biology and chemistry.My referring to sociologists in their ivory towers as smug is entirely my opinion and I'm entitled to it. I find much of sociology to exemplify all that is ridiculous in academia. It was one of the more absurd classes I took in college.
there is absolutely no difference between this ethnic group's "dirt under the bed" and something like a rosary or a crucifix. both are expressions of a religious belief that plenty of people consider "medieval superstition." there's nothing outrageous about either one of them - and frankly, even if it is nonsense, placebos can play a significant role in some people's recovery. you have all the right in the world to your own opinion, and no right at all to force bedridden patients to act in compliance with it if it isn't immediately relevant to their health and safety.
you do realize your signature quote is from an early sociologist and socialist, right?
- Mar 16, '09 by FireStarterRNI see you are 21 years of age, therefore you are most certainly at the height of your wisdom and understanding of life. 21 was also my pinnacle of spiritual and moral understanding as well. Good luck to you.
- Mar 24, '09 by hillarypeace2006Kudos to the OP. I think if we are working on a goal... which is usually for compliance, holistic wellness, being culturally adept can foster more desirable outcomes. Any nurse who is not interested or is too ignorant to see a positive outcome at the crux of their practice.. just should not practice. Plain and simple. Being culturally competent has opened many doors for me, as I now take Korean lessons.
- Mar 25, '09 by Equinox_93Holistic care IS a part of nursing.
Quote from RedCellYou could sum this "class" up in about 10 seconds. Treat others how you would want to be treated. There you go, A for the day. Seriously, this kind of ****** is why new grads have to go through hospital orientation programs to learn how to be a nurse. If Nursing Educators really want to be teaching this cultural diversity crap then they should at least cover useful topics...such as pharmacokinetic/dynamic differences that are apparent among different races, why some classes of meds work on one group and not well on another. At least you could apply that to nursing. Actually, that would be a helpful database for you to put together. You could probably even get it written up in the ANA journal.
- Mar 25, '09 by Equinox_93... So what if they believe dirt under their bed will help them get better? Does it matter? If it makes them feel better about it and if their beliefs offer them a happier life- IMO that's all that matters. Isn't that what we all want- a better/happier life? Education isn't everything. You can have all the education you can cram into your skull and still be a miserable prat. Is being a miserable prat better because education trumps happiness?
As for staff indulging these beliefs- holistic care is part of nursing. Period. There are limits of what can be effectively and safely done in a facility setting- but that doesn't mean we shouldn't do what we can and be respectful.
Quote from FireStarterRNYou know what really gets me about this stuff? Take the example the OP gave about one group that supposedly needs to have dirt under their bed. Let's face it, that's a folk superstition dating back from more primitive times. There is no scientific data that supports this, it sounds ridiculous, and probably the people who actually subscribe to that belief are uneducated people.
First of all, I'll bet that ethnic group consists of more than uneducated hillbillies that are following medieval beliefs. Yet these cultural diversity pundits paint these ethnic groups with broad strokes and stereotypes. They actually make non-white people from other countries (except for white hillbillies from Appalachia) sound like superstitious peasants.
Secondly, I see no reason for the healthcare system to indulge people's outrageous superstitions. These people sound like they have severe knowledge deficits. Why should healthcare workers be expected to guard dirt under the bed in a hospital? I think that's outrageous. Let these people put their dirt in a box and put a sign on it themselves not to touch it, just like other people leave their slippers under the bed.
- Mar 25, '09 by SaifudinI think this depends on the locality and the people living in it. Generally, staff get to know various ethnic, cultural and religious needs. Often times you will find employees with the same lifestyles so they become a good resource. In NYC for example, where I am from, so many cultures are represented that staff, at least in my experience are use to a pretty wide variety of things.
In areas where someones beliefs are unique to the community, they need to speak up if able but if feeling shy or uncomfortable to do so, I think we should take it upon ourselves to ask if there are any diet preferences, medication concerns, etc. But, I would never think to ask a gypsy if they need dirt under the bed. By the way, what does a gypsy look like?
When I was in NP practice and as a Muslim, one of our team physicians would call me about questions related to Muslims and medications. For example, a patient was fasting and was asthmatic. The doc wanted to know if the patient could use an inhaler. (Yes, you can). Sometimes, even patients don't know for sure or have wrong information.
But, I agree that it would become to difficult to know very esoteric beliefs.