CNM Online Education: Frontier vs. University of Cincinnati - page 2

by MegM, RN

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I'm a RN (have my BSN) planning on going back to school to become a CNM. There are no programs close to where I live, and I can't move, so I'll need to do it online. Anyone have any insight on which online program might be... Read More


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    #1: requires you to have L&D nursing experience (To me that implies a certain base level of knowledge required for entrance at Cincinnati)

    I do agree with this requirement....I have worked in Labor and Delivery for 15 years and some days I still wonder if I have enough experience to become a CNM! I cannot imagine starting this kind of program without any L&D experience.
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    #1: requires you to have l&d nursing experience (to me that implies a certain base level of knowledge required for entrance at cincinnati)

    not necessarily so. i admit that i don't know enough about u. of c.'s program, but i can tell you that a base level of knowledge is definitely helpful at frontier. frontier will teach you what you need to know about l & d, but those students who came from a l & d background have a much easier time than those with no experience. frontier is a very challenging program... but with my l & d experience i had a much easier time in my intrapartum courses. that said, i know several people with doula experience who work in the er or icu who have absolutely no problem learning the material... and they have an edge over me in the primary care courses.

    there is a certain benefit to having no l & d experience when you are learning the midwifery model. the medical model of care prevails in most l & d units, and it can be very hard to remove all of the "what if's" from your mind and focus on normal pregnancy.

    #2: their program is 2 1/2 years long vs frontier's only 2 years. (to me this implies a more in-depth program: on top of the higher base level of knowledge required for entrance)

    frontier's program is actually 27 months if you go full-time, so it's really only a 3 month difference. i don't know about "breaks" while at u. of c., but at frontier you only get 1 week off between terms and you go year round.

    #3: grades lower than a 3.0 are unacceptable at cincinnati and would lead to dismissal. (again, implying a higher standard).

    grades lower than 80% (3.0) are considered failing at frontier as well.

    so, from my research, i've concluded that the more challenging, indepth program is cincinnati. at the end of the day, it is about getting the best education available. that is why i'm choosing cincinnati.

    frontier is the oldest operating school of midwifery in the u.s. it is ranked among the best graduate nursing programs in u.s. news & world report. it's graduates are well-respected in the ob community. i don't know that the same can be said of u. of c. preceptors who take students from various midwifery programs consistently say that they will gladly take another frontier student in the future because they are well-prepared for clinical practice. i'm not trying to sway you into choosing frontier... that's your personal decision and you have to choose what you feel best about. but just based on the reasons you've cited, you might want to take another look at frontier.

    also, from my reseach, it is more expensive (just as a reply to the previous poster).
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    "#2: Their program is 2 1/2 years long VS Frontier's only 2 years. (To me this implies a more in-depth program: On top of the higher base level of knowledge required for entrance)"

    I also had done some research on several different programs before deciding on Frontier. As far as final credit hours at the end of the CNM program this is what I found:
    Univ. of Cincinnatti: 89 credit hours
    Univ. of Michigan (highly competitive and well-respected, but no distance learning option): 52 credit hours
    Frontier: 66 credit hours
    I am not sure why U of C requires so many more credit hours, more than U of M even. I guess I am more into efficiency and I do not think that total time or number of credit hours necessarily reflects quality of education.
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    Quote from redbeads
    "#2: Their program is 2 1/2 years long VS Frontier's only 2 years. (To me this implies a more in-depth program: On top of the higher base level of knowledge required for entrance)"

    I also had done some research on several different programs before deciding on Frontier. As far as final credit hours at the end of the CNM program this is what I found:
    Univ. of Cincinnatti: 89 credit hours
    Univ. of Michigan (highly competitive and well-respected, but no distance learning option): 52 credit hours
    Frontier: 66 credit hours
    I am not sure why U of C requires so many more credit hours, more than U of M even. I guess I am more into efficiency and I do not think that total time or number of credit hours necessarily reflects quality of education.
    I just looked at the U. of C. website. Part of their curriculum includes 900 clinical hours. Frontier only requires 675 clinical hours, yet their required numbers of births, labor managements, postpartum visits, new ob visits, etc... is double that of U. of C. For example, U. of C. only requires 20 births. I've already done 30 and need 10 more, yet I feel like I want closer to 50... I can't imagine feeling safe after just 20.
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    CNM in progress - you're making me very excited to start the program! (okay, I haven't officially been accepted yet, but I prefer to think positively)


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