Everest College - page 2

has anyone ever went to or no anything about this school out of Phoenix Az?????:bugeyes: Please help me out if you know anything at all Thank you... Read More

  1. by   1stloveistobeanurse
    Thanks for your response, however just to point out what I meant by a worthless piece of paper is this. When you receive a degree from a school that will not allow you to transfer these credit over to another public school then in essence what you have receive is worthless in the sense that you are not able to further your education outside of this particular school, and thus you must remain a student at said school or take the required courses all over again at a public school. I also looked into this school and I do not want to comment on the details I found during my investigation so I will leave you with thishttp://www.consumeraffairs.com/education/everest.html

    I am confident that we are all adults and we are all able to make our own decisions. At no time did I or will I ever encourage someone to attend a certain school or not, I only am stating the facts.
  2. by   andimp00
    Quote from 1stloveistobeanurse
    Thanks for your response, however just to point out what I meant by a worthless piece of paper is this. When you receive a degree from a school that will not allow you to transfer these credit over to another public school then in essence what you have receive is worthless in the sense that you are not able to further your education outside of this particular school, and thus you must remain a student at said school or take the required courses all over again at a public school. I also looked into this school and I do not want to comment on the details I found during my investigation so I will leave you with thishttp://www.consumeraffairs.com/education/everest.html

    I am confident that we are all adults and we are all able to make our own decisions. At no time did I or will I ever encourage someone to attend a certain school or not, I only am stating the facts.
    I PM'd you for specifics since your response was to my previous PM.

    I do want to post that I believe you can find students at any college or university that have complaints about their programs. Yes, some of these programs can be misleading. People need to do their homework and make sure they know what they are getting themselves into. No doubt that people have been burned when they sign up for things that they have not completely researched. However, Everest's nursing program is not one of these programs. I encourage anyone seriously looking into the program to talk to the director, the instructors, and students that are actually in the program and not get their information from consumer affair websites or from people that are making judgements from afar.
  3. by   Juliamine
    Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the red flag for me on these colleges is I think you get in on a first come first serve basis. I called around when I thought I would never get into nursing school and found out the credits dont transfer, so it seems like a waste of time. Also if your accepted on a first come first serve basis, seems that pretty much anyone who can pass their initial test can get in. So good for those who may have poor prereq grades, but for anyone who is competitive in the pool of nursing students, in my opinion, should steer clear of these programs.

    Also, my previous experience as a dental assistant taught me that graduates of trade schools (such as Apollo and Everest) get considered for hire last, with those from Colleges getting considered first and usually getting the position.
  4. by   andimp00
    Quote from Juliamine
    Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the red flag for me on these colleges is I think you get in on a first come first serve basis. I called around when I thought I would never get into nursing school and found out the credits dont transfer, so it seems like a waste of time. Also if your accepted on a first come first serve basis, seems that pretty much anyone who can pass their initial test can get in. So good for those who may have poor prereq grades, but for anyone who is competitive in the pool of nursing students, in my opinion, should steer clear of these programs.

    Also, my previous experience as a dental assistant taught me that graduates of trade schools (such as Apollo and Everest) get considered for hire last, with those from Colleges getting considered first and usually getting the position.
    You are incorrect, at least about Everest. There is no "first come first serve basis." A nursing school's accreditation is based on how well their students perform on the NCLEX exam at the end of the program. for that reason alone it would be stupid for them to admit anyone who applied without carefully reviewing their academic performace leading up to admission. You also go through an interview process. Again, as i have stated before, once you have your RN license you are able to attend other RN to BSN programs. The only tranfer issuses are with non-nursing classes, and you may have issues with those classes from any college or university. I was hired from the site that we had our clinical rotation at and have already been offered a job as an RN there once I graduate, so I also believe you are wrong in saying that we get hired last. Dental assisting and RN programs are completely different.

    I get so frustrated at people putting these programs down. Again, if anyone has real questions about the Everest program I urge them to make an appointment to speak with the director of the program (she is also a member of the AZ board of nursing), or a current student, and not people on these boards that are just passing judgement without actual knowledge.
  5. by   Juliamine
    Ok, well you certainly put me in my place didn't you? Yes dental assisting and RN programs are different. That's a no brainer, I was speaking of these kinds of schools, or institutes, people don't view as highly as going to a college. You may believe you get great education, and you probably do but I dont know personally, from reading this thread alone you can understand what I mean.
  6. by   1stloveistobeanurse
    andimp00 i really hate to say this but here it is, you seem to take comments about this school very personal. i know you claim that you are not an employee here but a student. if this is true why in the world would you care about others comments. if you are getting what you need and you don't have a vested interest in the school beside that you get an education then what's up?

    i know now that i am working on my pre reqs i am proud of my school but first and foremost i am proud of my own accomplishments. i did notice that when you pm me, you mention everything about the rep of your school, however, you never mention anything about the fact these schools work on a 90/10 financial basis, and that they are overpricing their programs by 110% which means that students will always be forced to contribute at least that 10% into the cost of the program because the school has taken all the financial they was awarded.

    many private schools are expensive, and their rep speaks for itself, i do not see anyone as offended about these schools but you. why
  7. by   andimp00
    Quote from 1stloveistobeanurse
    andimp00 i really hate to say this but here it is, you seem to take comments about this school very personal. i know you claim that you are not an employee here but a student. if this is true why in the world would you care about others comments. if you are getting what you need and you don't have a vested interest in the school beside that you get an education then what's up?

    i know now that i am working on my pre reqs i am proud of my school but first and foremost i am proud of my own accomplishments. i did notice that when you pm me, you mention everything about the rep of your school, however, you never mention anything about the fact these schools work on a 90/10 financial basis, and that they are overpricing their programs by 110% which means that students will always be forced to contribute at least that 10% into the cost of the program because the school has taken all the financial they was awarded.

    many private schools are expensive, and their rep speaks for itself, i do not see anyone as offended about these schools but you. why
    since you want to personally attack me on the thread and not pm me, here it goes:
    as for my accomplishments, i have a bachelors degree from a top 25 university. i spent 10 years in the business world where i was in management of a large nationwide company. my passion has always been the medical field so i left my high paying job to pursue nursing. i decided on a private school becuase i could have my degree while the rest of you are still doing your prereq's. i already had my prereq's and just needed nursing classes. everest, unlike other private schools, let me tranfer in all my prereqs and not choose only a few and retake the others with them to collect cash. this let me know they were not in it to squeeze every penny out of me. as for the 90/10 thing, you obviously have information i do not. all i know is that everest is still cheaper per credit than asu is. ccs are cheap, but taxpayers have contributed to pay for those programs. i will get my bachelors with 26 credits after i finish at everest. i will do it at the same top 25 university that i have my other bachelors. they will accept my credits, i have asked.

    i defend my school because others do not. my vested interest is the reputation of my school's nursing program. if there isn't anyone on these threads defending it then all that other potential students read is the negative information that other, non informed people post. i want people to have the facts. if i was posting negative info about your school i would expect you to respond. i want people who are looking into programs to get all of the information they can to choose a program that is right for them. when i was looking into programs i found that there was a lack of concrete information and an excess of this type of random, incorrect information floating out there. i know my school doesn't give out info when you call on the phone. that frustrated me as well when i was applying. so i am trying to demystify it a bit and give good information. you can talk to other people on this board that have pmd me. not everything i have to say is great, but i keep my personal issues off of the public forum, at least i did before you attacked me.

    that is why i am defending my school even when i am getting what i want out of it. my question is why are you trying to tear down a school when you have no reason to. what are you getting out of it? let other people find out information. let people who actually attend these schools tell their stories. if i have questions about your school i will ask you. let others ask me. i will not participate in any more of this banter. it is nonproductive. again, i ask people to not speak on subjects that they are not informed about. if anyone wants real information from a student that goes to this school, please let me know. several people have contacted me. they know my name. some of them have even begun attending the school. they see me in the halls. they know i am not an employee. i hope they too are proud of their school. good luck to you.
  8. by   1stloveistobeanurse
    I will not agrue with you because I am not a child. I like you have a MBA and was a public accountant for well over 20 years. So your background means nothing to me, I read a post that asked a comment and I gave my comments as such. I have never at any time made any personal attacks against you and I will not allow you to make any against me. Futher more, like I stated when you PM and believe me this will be for the last time, everyone is entitled to there own opinion, you cant change my opinion nor can I change your's, so to PM me everyday is what forced me to place my comments responding to you in the open. Like I stated before, there is no reason for you to send me PM messages, based on my comments, and I would not like to take this any futher than necessary.
  9. by   shooper0418
    im considering going to everest college in phoenix, however like anyone else im skeptical of spending that kind of money and people laughing at my resume. so I personally called the education department at a banner hospital and asked them their openion and he told me that it doesnt matter. you decide what kind of nurse your gonna be. he said he's seen graduates come out of asu who cant pull their head out of their butt. as long as they are nationally accredited thats all that matters. so i do plan on going there. As far as credit transfer i will look into that.
  10. by   Nursinginquirer
    Hi Andimp00, I'm new to this site so I can't PM yet. But out of curiosity, have you graduated and are you working now and how long did it take for you and your classmates to find a job? What hospitals hire everest grads? Do you know if any of your classmates transferred from Everest to get their BSN or MSN? Please reply when you can and congrats on nursing. =)
  11. by   Miwila
    Quote from 1stloveistobeanurse
    I would be very careful with Everest and schools such as this. Did you contact any other public university and asked them do they take Everest credits? You might want to do this, I myself was in a Nursing program with another for profit school and I had to withdrawl and pay money why for this same reason I thought I did a great job with investigating the school and the program and come to find out it was the worse mistake I ever made. Also the cost is so high with these schools because of a rule called 10/90. What this means is the school is allowed to recieve title IV funding based on the fact that each student will be responsible for 10% of the cost of the tution, where the school will receive the other 90% of your financial aid. What they do is the raise the cost of the tution, based on the time span of the program to over well over 110% so you will end up paying at least 10% out of pocket while the schools takes all your aid. Also, the general education courses you take at these schools are normally not transferrable, so basically you are paying this type of money for a RN certificate and two year degree that you can't transfer out. Sure you maybe able to go back to the school for a 4 year degree but the same rules apply and you still have a useless piece of paper in the long run.
    Thank you for that nugget of information. It really makes my blood boil sometimes, what these tech schools do and get away with doing.
  12. by   PacoUSA
    Quote from xcited 2b-n-rn
    everest is accredited by the higher learning commission, and by the az state board of private postsecondary education. because their nursing program is relatively new, they are provisionally approved by the az state board of nursing. they are also in the process of receiving their regional accreditation, which i think is better than national accreditation because you can continue your higher degrees (bsn, msn, yata, yata) at a public university.
    the bolded statement is absolutely not true ... national ccne and/or nlnac are the gold standard for nursing school accreditation, and one cannot even apply for a reputable msn program without having graduated from a bsn program that is accredited by at least one of these. regional accreditation is clearly a prereq if you will for the national one. everest you say is provisionally accredited by the az bon, which technically means they are not even in the pipeline for national accreditation yet. i personally would not touch everest for more reasons than i even went into here, but to each his own.
  13. by   soontobeRN29
    I am currently a student at Everest College, I am the first block of students to be graduating in Jan 10' which is very soon! I can personally say that Everest is a great school. Sure we have had to deal with a lot of changes, but that is to be expected as the first class going through. However, it has prepared us to be great nurses. I work at a local hospital and talk with the nurses on things that I am learning and they are shocked at the things and level we are learning. They have taught us material that other university's and community colleges wouldn't have bothered to teach us. The nurses on our clinical rotation are also surprised as how much we know, and how many skills we are able to perform. The curriculum is harder than most schools, and the HESI testing requirements at the end of each course are different than most schools.

    The staff is amazing, talk about one-on-one attention. I have most of my teachers home phone numbers or cell phones and they are glad to have us call about anything. We have very experienced staff teaching us as well, one is a nationally recognized doctor who teaches micro, anatomy, path, and pharm. He also gives us mock lab situations and has taught us the basics in ACLS. Our director also sits on the nursing board and attends every education advisory committee, so the education board in a way is holding her to a higher standard. She also takes the time to meet with each of the "blocks" and wants to hear what they have to say about the program, how she can help, etc. That is something that I guarantee you wont see at most schools.

    Yes the school is expensive, but doing cost analysis and being on the waiting list for 3 yrs, it worked out better this way. The waiting list for the CC's is 3 years, and getting longer. Each month over 100 students are added to that list. ASU had raised their tuition cost, and continues to do so. Our school is not much more expensive than ASU, and is right there with university of phoenix. I was able to transfer a lot of my credits from ASU for courses like anatomy, micro, english, lit, etc and didn't have to take those classes so my schooling was a little cheaper.

    I have checked out transferring to ASU when I am done and will begin in August in their RN to BSN program. ASU is concerned if the school it self EVEREST not the college of nursing is accredited by the high learning commission, which it is. My RN degree will transfer, and since my prereqs were taken at ASU they will transfer as well. University of phoenix will also take our credits, they are more concerned if you have your RN and if the school is accredited by the higher learning commission. Ive also applied for some new grad positions, and they're requirements are that I have my RN (obviously) and if the school is accredited by the higher learning commission.

    Yes there are schools out there (private schools) who are not good schools. There is a new school that is trying to get permission from the board to start two campuses one in tucson and one in phoenix that clearly just wants money from students. They do not have clinical space for their new students but still want to start the program in january and the way that their curriculum is ridiculous. So if you are checking out private schools do your research. Everest is a great school, I speak from experience, Grand canyon university is another great school. Please feel free to ask questions, ligit questions. We will see how great our school is when NCLEX scores comes out. That is another way to know if the school has a good curriculum, look at their NCLEX scores or for us look at our HESI scores.

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