Recent RN or CPN in Montreal, Quebec - page 4
Hi, Everyone! Some questions for those who recently became an RN or a CPN in Montreal, Quebec. 1) OIIQ now states on their website that regardless of one's studies and work experience, all applicants outside of Quebec must... Read More
- 0Sep 27, '10 by nicole0214Hi Jopin,
Welcome to Montreal! I really hope you're enjoying your stay here.. Also, congratulations on your temporary permit!
Your level is way bit more advanced than what I'm in right now so I don't have much to say about it.. But I'm happy you're already part of Quebec's workforce.. (Unlike me who still have to go under the grueling process of paper works and integrations).. All I know is that, you can already work with your permit and have 2 years lee way, from the time you receive your invitation, to take the nursing exams..
St. Mary's Hospital is a really nice place to start.. At least it's a bilingual institution.. When I went there, I was advised to send my resume online and call the human resource officer after a day or two to follow up on it..
I really wish you luck, Jopina.. Oh, I haven't applied for the French exam yet.. I'm taking my sweet time to learn the language first.. For more queries, just feel free to post.. The staff around here are helpful too.. Good luck again!
- 0Sep 27, '10 by nicole0214Mia,
So far, no luck in St. Mary's for me.. The program's full until next year so I'll be enrolling for the integration program in a CEGEP instead.. It may take long but I really hope it could help me alleviate my anxieties regarding our soon-to-be roles as nurses here in Quebec..
Have you taken the exams yet? How was it? I forgot to wish you luck.. Congratulations in advanced if you passed!
- 0Sep 27, '10 by JOPINHi Nicole,
Thanks for your prompt reply. I have taking advantage to post so i will be able to send PM soon.
I have not gotten my permit yet until i find a job. i am taking basic french at mcgill`s continuing education, part time only, how about you? are you taking french course at the moment? good for you for taking your sweet time in learning the language, i will try, i do enjoy learning the language but at times i feel anxious because i do miss working, i am realizing how much i really miss nursing, i left BC on May and its only been almost 5 months, but if feels like a year already. wish you all the luck as well.
- 0hi jopin,
you're an RN in BC? i guess you don't have to go through the loooong process that me and nicole have to go through? good for you! lol. about st. mary's, nicole is right, it's a bilingual/multi-lingual hospital, prides itself on its multi-racial community, speaking i-forgot-how-many-languages in total. we do get some purely french patients, and it IS tres important to know french, but, you can get by with just english to begin with, and learn french as you go along. The language most often used, in charting, doctor's notes, in official meetings, is english. So you can get by, no problem. If you're an RN in BC, and just need the endorsment to practice in quebec, there shouldnt be much of a problem finding work (i think). with the french requirement, it might help to be enrolled in a french class when you apply. i should think the HR department of any hospital will appreciate that you intend to learn the language at least. aside from st. mary's there are a number of hospitals in the montreal area. if your previous experience is in rehab, and want to pursue this, you might try catherine booth or richardson hospital. i'm not much of an expert on this, because i've only been here barely a year myself. but im just telling you what i do know. and just send out an application to st. mary's. if you're really interested, then email your resume, and hand-carry a paper copy just in case they don't get the email . talk to the HR department, and ask in person. They're quite nice there. When i applied, i had 0 experience, fresh graduate from the Phils, no french, but i did call everyday. lol.
Anyway, I know you'll find work soon enough. They need nurses here. Keep us posted ok!
PS. Why are you moving to montreal from vancouver? (a lof of nurses here want to move to vancouver!)
- 0Hi Mia,
Thanks for your prompt reply. I really appreciate it. I moved here because my boyfriend accepted a job at St Luke. Just like you said there should be much of a problem looking for a job as a nurse due to the shortage and I did complete my education here and I already have an experience for almost three years. I did inquire from McGill and Jewish General (there were the only hospital I was aware of, so i am really grateful you have provided more info, much appreciated) before moving here and i got an impression that it won`t be easy to get a job, but like i mentioned McGill declined my application due to lack of french and acute care. I am still awaiting to hear from the Jewish General Hospital because the manager at the unit i wish apply at was on vacation and then when she got back, i was advised there was no position available in that unit, so my resume is now forwarded to another unit. By the way, which unit are you working and how is the patient-nurse ratio in your unit? I have so much more questions but I try not to bombared you for gazillion of then all at once. I hope you don`t mind.
- 0hi nicole, yes, i just did the exams two weekends ago , will have to wait 8 weeks for the results! i hope i pass. lol. anyway, pass or fail, i'd give you my general impression of the quebec exam. I have already taken and passed both the phils boards and the nclex. and.... the quebec exam in comparison, maybe the easiest. i'm not sure i passed, ok. lol. if i don't pass, i will take it again, the next time i know what to expect. but there wasn't much information about the exam going around before i took it. so i had nooo idea what exaclty it was all about. it's just that i was surprised how different it is from what i imagined it would be.
The exam format is different, the quebec exam is two parts, first part will be the OSCE (practical) and then the 2nd is the written part. if you're doing the cegep, you'll have more experience with the osce. they do mock-osce's in nursing school here, i think.
i realized now that it is very important to have hospital experience in the quebec setting to get the general feel for what the OIIQ wants, specially for international graduates. my two months of integration here really helped. The osce has 16 stations, they hired actors to play simulated clients. there's an observer for every station, who's there to check how you intervene in each scenario. The most important thing i think, is, they test the communication skills and how the would-be-nurse reacts in each situation. The scenarios are quite simple. For example, a patient contemplating suicide. You don't know this at first when you go into the room, and on first contact. You have to get the patient to verbalize this intent. If you were to write down the answer for the question - "what do you do with a suicidal patient" - it will ake you maybe 5 minutes and be soo easy. But try communicating with a "patient," while a stern-looking woman watches you on the side.
Or try another scenario of a patient on isolation. Teaching is another component of the exam. What do you teach a patient with DVT (deep vein thrombosis)... you might know that they're not supposed to cross the legs but...it's how you deliver the whole spiel without sounding awkard. lol. So that's the osce. Questions are simple. But not very easy if you bend under pressure.
With the written part of the exam... it was...not so hard... if you took the phils board exam...with 500 question, covering topics from the scientific name of sambong to vaccination schedules... or the nclex with minimum 75 questions and you have to memorize antidotes and presenting symptoms... you will understand why i was surprised by the written part of the quebec exam. this one has 100 questions, 50 items in the morning, and another 50 items in the afternoon. each part for 2 and a half hours. yes, it's open ended type. The questions are very basic, but quite tricky. They give a scenario, with followup questions. Mrs. X fell. Give 3 interventions to prevent Mrs. X from falling next time. (SO, that's 50-3 more questions to go.) Looks simple too, but you take the exam in a hugeeee room with all the other examinees.
It was stressful, the exam. I was exhausted after. More from the anxiety of the unknown. lol. I suggest you get a hold of the OIIQ reviewer they're selling for 50$ to get a feel for it.
I hope I pass! will let you know!
- 0hi jopin.. i'm in surgery now, struggling. the ratio on a good day would be 1 nurse to 4-5 patients. it doesn't sound much, but it's a lot of work for a novice like me. i have not worked anywhere else so i have nothing to compare my experience here with. yes, try all the other hospitals. you can see a listing here:
- 0hi again jopin. thanks for your positive vibes. im not saying im sure to pass the exam tho, because i dnt know if i did well at all until i see the results. but pass or fail, im just saying it's not impossible for anyone having to take the oiiq test. i have two more tries after this first try. i'm posting for anyone else who's clueless about it, as i was. the quebec licensure exam was a big mystery, and prior to taking the exam, i searched the internet for any testimony about it, but found almost none! :spin:
update us about your jobsearch ok!
- 0Hi Mia, thanks again and again for your wealth of information. Same in BC, 5 patients during the day and 7 patients during the night shift, for sure, the workload keeps you on your feet through out the shift, but nursing is such a very rewarding profession, aren`t we all so blessed to be in this profession. I am sure you are doing just well. I really do admire your courage, determination and perseverance, from the time you applied to where you are now, kudos to you girl! and you sharing information, thanks a lot really. Have a wonderful day.