Quickest Way for Getting Things Done and Licensed in US - page 2

As most of you know, I have been recommending initial licensure in NY for quite some time. And for those of you that did not heed the warning, you now know why. New York is three easy... Read More

  1. by   suzanne4
    1. Do not waste the time of writing the CGFNS exam.........
    2. Complete your English exams as quickly as possible, this is one of the most important things......
    3. You want a company that is covered under the Vermont office for processing........that is the fastest..............
    4. Go for NY for initial licensure, as they will give you a hard copy license when you pass NCLEX. California will not, so it is hard to endorse from there.
    5. Follow the steps that I have listed here..............quite simple......
    6. As far as the NY application, just put that you are in the process of applying for green card and include a copy of your passport, and since you have a tourist visa for the US, you can submit that page also.....that is all that they require...........
    7. I would fill out what they ask for on the application, if you leave something off then it can come back to haunt you later on....that you were not truthful on the application.............
    8. If you want you can forward your resume to me and I will let you know what I think...........

    Hope that this helps.................
  2. by   pinoy_guy
    Quote from suzanne4
    1. Do not waste the time of writing the CGFNS exam.........
    OK, so I'll strike the CGFNS exam off my list.
    Quote from suzanne4
    2. Complete your English exams as quickly as possible, this is one of the most important things......
    I plan to take the IELTS after the Philippine Nursing Boards, this June.
    Quote from suzanne4
    3. You want a company that is covered under the Vermont office for processing........that is the fastest..............
    What company? A Recruitment Agency or a Nurse Staffing Agency? Do you suggest working for an agency, or applying directly to a hospital? We do have our Tourist Visas, so we can go to the US for the interview...
    Quote from suzanne4
    4. Go for NY for initial licensure, as they will give you a hard copy license when you pass NCLEX. California will not, so it is hard to endorse from there.
    Thanks for this vital piece of information.
    Quote from suzanne4
    5. Follow the steps that I have listed here..............quite simple......
    So I basically submit the New York Application, the Special Credentials Verification, and the Visa Screen? How about the classes on Child Abuse and Infection, can I take them in the US, let's say after I complete the requirements? Are there accredited facilities here in the Philippines where I can get the certificates?
    Quote from suzanne4
    6. As far as the NY application, just put that you are in the process of applying for green card and include a copy of your passport, and since you have a tourist visa for the US, you can submit that page also.....that is all that they require...........
    OK, so in the New York Application Form, I just check "H" for Item 20? "Non Immigrant (Temporarily in U.S.)" even if I'm not in the US? And I include a photocopy of my Tourist Visa? I'm confused...
    Quote from suzanne4
    7. I would fill out what they ask for on the application, if you leave something off then it can come back to haunt you later on....that you were not truthful on the application.............
    Hmmm... This is our problem...the previous graduates put in everything, including their Medical Training, and it took around 3 years to correct whatever problems that created.
    Quote from suzanne4
    8. If you want you can forward your resume to me and I will let you know what I think...........
    I don't have a resume yet, but I'll send you some of the milestones...

    BTW, how do we go about it if we plan to get an Adjustment-of-Status? Do we need the Visa Screen certificate when we go there? Won't it be "Intent to Immigrate"?

    Sorry for the questions, I'm hearing lots of rumors and misconceptions that it's difficult to decide which advice to follow...

    Quote from suzanne4
    Hope that this helps.................
    Thanks!
  3. by   suzanne4
    It can take about four months to receive the Visa Screen Certificate, if you are petitioned under Vermont, you will need it before that time...........

    You only need the three applications for NY.........the two classes can be done on-line for about $15 each, while you are still in Manila...........

    Just check off Box H and submit a copy of your passport with the applciation, simple as that..................

    Problem is that if you do not include all of your training, you are with-holding information and that come back and burn you later on.........that is the same as giving false information.

    If the information is given properly, then it shouldn't delay things. Just make sure that there are no dates mixed up, this will casue the biggest problems all around...............
  4. by   lady_vee
    Great posting, and so helpful to keep it as a sticky. I still have one more year to go until I graduate my nursing program. I was thinking of applying to California right after Grad, but now have reconsidered after reading this.

    1 question:
    How long do I have to wait until I can endorse my NY license to California ie. do I have to put in an X number of months/years working in New York before I can endorse to other parts of the states?

    Thanks for taking the time to answer this

    Vivienne
  5. by   suzanne4
    Quote from lady_vee
    Great posting, and so helpful to keep it as a sticky. I still have one more year to go until I graduate my nursing program. I was thinking of applying to California right after Grad, but now have reconsidered after reading this.

    1 question:
    How long do I have to wait until I can endorse my NY license to California ie. do I have to put in an X number of months/years working in New York before I can endorse to other parts of the states?

    Thanks for taking the time to answer this

    Vivienne
    You can endorse immediately, no reason to ever work in NY unless you want to. Definitely do not apply to California for initial licensure as a foreign grad..if you decide that you wish to work someplace else you will be stuck as CA will not issue you a license until you have a SSN#.
    Just follow what I have posted for NY, but you need to wait until you have finished all of your training and have a final set of transcripts available.

    You will need to have the Visa Screen Certificate in hand to get your TN Visa. Somehting else that you may wish to consider since you are from Canada, Minnesota may be quicker for you in terms of getting ATT approval to sit for your NCLEX exam, but since you have to wait for the VSC, you may as well do NY as they will do all of the legwork for you.
    Last edit by suzanne4 on May 2, '05
  6. by   lady_vee
    Quote from suzanne4
    You can endorse immediately, no reason to ever work in NY unless you want to. Definitely do not apply to California for initial licensure as a foreign grad..if you decide that you wish to work someplace else you will be stuck as CA will not issue you a license until you have a SSN#.
    Just follow what I have posted for NY, but you need to wait until you have finished all of your training and have a final set of transcripts available.

    You will need to have the Visa Screen Certificate in hand to get your TN Visa. Somehting else that you may wish to consider since you are from Canada, Minnesota may be quicker for you in terms of getting ATT approval to sit for your NCLEX exam, but since you have to wait for the VSC, you may as well do NY as they will do all of the legwork for you.

    AWESOME!!! Thanks soo much for all this valuable info!!
  7. by   zuriel
    Hi suzanne. How could I send my NCLEX result/license(hard copy) to ICHP for my visa screen I don't have CGFNS. I took California NCLEX.
    Quote from suzanne4
    1. Do not waste the time of writing the CGFNS exam.........
    2. Complete your English exams as quickly as possible, this is one of the most important things......
    3. You want a company that is covered under the Vermont office for processing........that is the fastest..............
    4. Go for NY for initial licensure, as they will give you a hard copy license when you pass NCLEX. California will not, so it is hard to endorse from there.
    5. Follow the steps that I have listed here..............quite simple......
    6. As far as the NY application, just put that you are in the process of applying for green card and include a copy of your passport, and since you have a tourist visa for the US, you can submit that page also.....that is all that they require...........
    7. I would fill out what they ask for on the application, if you leave something off then it can come back to haunt you later on....that you were not truthful on the application.............
    8. If you want you can forward your resume to me and I will let you know what I think...........

    Hope that this helps.................
  8. by   suzanne4
    You can contact either the Board of Nursing in California or Pearson-Vue to send the information. ICHP will not and cannot accept a copy of the letter coming from you.
    Simple as that..............
  9. by   Suzana
    Quote from coffeealice
    Hi suzanne, It's so glad to hear from you about the suggestion, you're so nice.
    Any way, I'm not sure whether you know some info of the education system
    in China, the most nurse students went to nursing school not after the high school graducation, but junior school. So we didn't own the high school diploma, but our nursing program was four years, for some cases, the first 2-year program can equivalent with the high school.
    Alice
    Quote from suzanne4
    I am well aware of the training in China..............
    Do not worry about the retrogression currently in place. By the time that you get you your exmainations taken care of, it should be lifted.
    Hi Suzanne,

    It is a similar education system as in my country, so after finishing the nursing school there what is the equivalent title here RN or LPN.


    Thanks in advance.

    Regards,
    Suzana
  10. by   suzanne4
    If it is a two year program, where you are not required to take Humanities, language, etc. then it is equivalent of an ADN, but that is only if you were in an RN program.............

    BSNs here are four year degrees, two years are usually pre-requisites for the nursing program, as well as the school basics to make you "an all around" student as they call it.........

    Two year programs here also do not do a "community health" rotation.
    Last edit by suzanne4 on May 5, '05
  11. by   suzanne4
    Quote from Suzana
    Hi Suzanne,

    It is a similar education system as in my country, so after finishing the nursing school there what is the equivalent title here RN or LPN.


    Thanks in advance.

    Regards,
    Suzana
    Depends on which country where you trained. You must have credentials that allow you to be called a "professtional" nurse or 1st level nurse in your country to be called an RN. Most programs overseas are now three or four years. In the US, we have three different programs that all lead to being able to sit for the NCLEX-RN exam...........Diploma program which is hospital based and either 2 or 3 years, the ADN which is a two year associate from a community college, and the four year BSN.

    In Thailand, the two year programs are equivalent of an LPN in the US, their Diploma is equivalent to our RN program...........just different titles but also dependson what was taught in the curriculum.....

    Hope that this helps...............
  12. by   Suzana
    Quote from suzanne4
    Depends on which country where you trained. You must have credentials that allow you to be called a "professtional" nurse or 1st level nurse in your country to be called an RN. Most programs overseas are now three or four years. In the US, we have three different programs that all lead to being able to sit for the NCLEX-RN exam...........Diploma program which is hospital based and either 2 or 3 years, the ADN which is a two year associate from a community college, and the four year BSN.

    In Thailand, the two year programs are equivalent of an LPN in the US, their Diploma is equivalent to our RN program...........just different titles but also dependson what was taught in the curriculum.....

    Hope that this helps...............
    Thank you very much for the reply but now I'm even more confused?!?
    In my country (Yugoslavia), there is no RN or LPN but only medical nurse. I worked 8 years in the emergency room in hospital as well as 4 years in cardiology unit. Administering medications, pushing IV's, placing IV lines, assisting the physicians during treatment and taking care of the patient in general was the everyday job. After finishing the school, I received Diploma for finishing the secondary nursing school and have title "medical nurse". I am asking you this because when I called the CGFNS to apply for credential verification and asked them if I should apply for RN or LPN the answer from them was “you apply for both and we will see”!?? My school

    Thank you in advance.

    Suzana
  13. by   suzanne4
    In that case, it will come down to what you actually studied in school, and what will be accepted by CGFNS as they have the final word on everything....

    Are there any four year programs in your country, or only two year?
    CGFNS has a set standard that they follow, best is to let them make a determination............

    Is there only one class of nurse in your country, or are there two?

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