Roseman University ABSN - Change, Growth and Learn

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UORapplicant

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Hi! No, I have not made up my mind. I was just being honest with what happened contacting the school. They actually sent me an email in regards to the transcript and this is what it says on their 2018-2019 student handbook ''The college of Nursing has assigned 4.0 quality grading points to a grade of f H (Honors) or P (Pass) and a 0.0 to a grade of NP for purposes of calculating a GPA. The student's GPA will be reported on the transcript.''

I talked to some of their students on the FB. Honestly, I did not hear anything bad about the school and they told me their classmates got into graduate schools however, I wanna know if they were able to get into a reputable graduate school or not.

Anyways, I am still thinking what to do. I am applying for Marian University in Indianapolis too.

SD123CA

33 Posts

I'm glad to hear current students are speaking great things of the program. I talked to previous Roseman students who were very unhappy with it, but to be fair they were from the cohort years of 2013 and 2015. Which are also the years in which Roseman had low, non competitive program completion rates. You can find these statistics on their very own website. Most schools that I've researched had high completrtion rates, usually in the high 90's, which is telling. If you ask anyone today at Roseman the reason for these low completion rates there is a good chance they will say they are unsure because either they don't want to say or because they are new as I hear from these previous students that there were big changes being made during their time there in terms of faculty. More specifically during the 2015 year. Also, I wonder why they now decided it was a good time to include gpa's to their transcripts and why they didn't do that sooner, makes one wonder. The alumni I spoke to who attended Roseman in 2015 did mention she felt as if they were guinea pigs and how many struggled throughout the program, which I believe. Just with a quick search online one can find the bad reviews, especially from those years. In your case I think it's great news to hear that these current students say many are getting into graduate programs as that is your ultimate plan. I wasn't sure if you'd find any of that information regarding alumni getting into graduate programs given that I was under the impression that it isn't a relatively old program and those entering graduate programs usually do so after having worked and gained experience. Nevertheless it is very good to hear students are happy with it. Do you happen to know how long their currrent ABSN faculty has been around? I think it will be more telling to see if they are constantly having new people come in.

UORapplicant

41 Posts

This is the information I got from reading their student handbooks for the past few years. Until 2014 they included GPA and numerical grades. Then they stopped doing that from 2014 to 2018. From this year they started using numerical grades again. As far as I know the dean of the school was changed and the new dean is making sure student's concerns are heard. They have been around for a few years but I am not sure how long they have been working thee for. They do fail students though and I agree with you but that is with any school that has a high acceptance rate. They weed out students in their first or second semester. I am not defending Roseman I am just being honest.

I have not made up my decision yet as I mentioned before. I may wait one more year to get into a state school. Have you looked into Marian Nursing Program? Their program is cheaper a little bit and they have graduate programs (CRNA, Family NP).

SD123CA

33 Posts

The whole gpa thing is just so odd to me and it is just one of the many reasons why I chose not to go with Roseman. I'm sure you were told not so long ago as I was that they didn't have gpa's and then literally just a few weeks go by and boom they decided to change that. I was never once told they were even planning on implementing goa's. It just didn't feel good to me and I wasn't 100% sold with the program; I didn't want to take out a big loan just to maybe be disappointed later like some previous students were. I have not heard of Marian but just hearing that they even offer graduate programs Would be a huge relief to me; sounds more accomplished and up to par with state schools.

UORapplicant

41 Posts

Yeah, I hear you. Marian has a Medical school too. They are legit.

SD123CA

33 Posts

Already sounds better to me.

Gonna

1 Post

Hell there,

If your ultimate plan is to become a psych NP look elsewhere. When you graduate from Roseman you are not given a gpa like regular schools so when you start looking into NP schools or programs some years down the line they will be obviously asking for all your previous transcripts and school information. But when they get to your Roseman transcript all they will see is that you passed. As you have probably realized by now programs usually utilize a point system to see if you qualify, but how will they calculate your overall gpa's for example with just a "pass" transcript such as Roseman. Again I'm sure you've heard that if necessary Roseman can write you a letter explaining that each course has been passed with a minimum 90% and that you can't finish their program without this minimum. But doesn't that sound a little strange? Medical programs in general are already so competitive imagine how they will be years down the line when you start looking into NP programs. It is my opinion that NP programs will much prefer another candidate without a um how do I say this...well prefer a candidate with a transcript that is just like allll the other transcripts and not suspicious. Another thing that is concerning to me is that their ABSN program has online components. How is a nurse that is suppose to provide hands on care to their patients suppose to just learn from a computer, yes I understand that their clinical and labs and tests are in person but why can't they have an actual person teaching these future nurses? Will future employers find this odd? Will a Roseman student be compatible with say a student who graduated from a state university. Also have you looked at their statistics from previous years as far how many graduates they had and how many passed the NCLEX? It is from my understanding and research that they had a year or two with suspiciously low statistics. Why is that? I just suggest to you to do your own research. Maybe start oooking into what NP programs look at as far as transcripts. Good luck! Don't look at the information that is out there for the public with foggy glasses...be vigilant... do your research...ask questions....

Now, I'm super scared. :)

Caden_t

7 Posts

What about continuing education if you wanted to do MSN? Roseman is a pass/fail program and courses, correct? do you know how that would look on applications to MSN programs? Since there isn't really a GPA to go off of.

Thanks in advance! ?

So_siv

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On 6/10/2016 at 8:09 PM, ger_bearr said:

Hi, do you happen to know what model Dell laptop we get for the ABSN program?

Also, when do I NEED to move to Last Vegas?... It seems the first block "Intro to the profession," shouldn't be requiring any on-campus work, whereas the second block, that starts 3 weeks in is "health assessment." I'm presuming I'll definitely have to be there for second block, but what about during the first block (first 2 weeks)?

why do you need to buy a new laptop for the program?

Specializes in Behavioral Health.

Here is an update on the grading system at Roseman. They now use GPA and everyone who graduates gets a 4.0 GPA because you can only continue in the program if you maintain a 4.0 GPA throughout. All transcripts now reflect the GPA grading system.

Awesome details! I live in Cali but I have family who lives in Vegas. I plan on flying out there to be on campus when needed. How often are students on campus each block?

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