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Well not NO one... Sometimes the fetus becomes distressed and have prolonged decelerations. When baby is crowning and crumping at the same time, an episiotomy may be needed... And be the better option opposed to a c-section.

I always have to wonder though, if numbers are worse in developed counties, because developed countries are more likely to have a system to collect data on outcomes, thus putting forward more negative outcomes. The same is true with other things, such as STI's. One country may have a higher incidence of STI's but is that because more people in that country report/treat the STI rather than the other country who doesn't because the cost to treat/report is more than they can afford. Or is it really because developed countries have higher incidences of STI's. I'd like to think it's a little bit of both, however I also think the numbers would be a little bit more equal if both used the same system to collect and report.

When we do circ's, we don't strap the arms down. We just swaddle them. I don't really see a need to strap them down.

Best case scenario, you could get a job as a CNA on an OBGYN floor. If the manager/staff like you, once you graduate you could have a position waiting for you. Second best case, get a CNA job anywhere and it could give you the 1 up on a student without CNA experience...

I kinda got that vibe too... Hosh posh any skills/knowledge, if they fit in, by golly they must be a great nurse. *Que pseudo-tearing to promote bonding*

Well neither of these really answer or give credit to your claims about peppermint oil... I am not going to read the book but the link you provided didn't say anything about peppermint oil helping one void nor did it say anything about breastfeeding... So idk what those were for...

I'm assuming this is directed towards me? If you are assuming I am against natural medicine, you are mistaken. I simply stated treating something without a doctor's order is outside of a nurses' scope. As I said, in my facility, we don't use peppermint oil and the doctors do not order it, so if I, myself were to give it in my facility, it would be out of my scope. Given my experience with treating postpartum patients having trouble voiding, I had not heard of using peppermint oil, hence the scope of practice bit. However, just researching something does not automatically make it in your scope of practice. I could research anything but that doesn't mean I have the scope to practice it. And that stands for anyone no matter their experience with natural medicine or anything else. If you re-read, I said I had researched and had not found anything stated it helped with voiding, but asked for the posters information on where s/he learned that peppermint oil had helped with postpartum voiding. Although I am not filled with experience on natural medicine, I am open to using alternative medicine as opposed to western medicine if the same or better outcomes are achieved with minimal risks. Asking for information should be encouraged by yourself to better educate more people on the uses of natural medicine, if you feel so strongly about the practices. Your comments suggest you feel otherwise, and if I have no experience I should just move on and not ask questions. That is really hindering the expansion of natural medicine. So please, can you direct me to where you found this information (i.e. research article) so I CAN have more experience/knowledge of natural medicine. Or should I just not comment?

Wait, so do you sit on it or smell it? Or just different routes? I could understand sitting on it, as it probably induces some type of mechanism to relax the muscles? It seems like a wide practice I guess since most have agreed that their hospitals supply this, but I never have heard of it at either OB hospitals I have been at. It seems relatively safe so I agree, I don't see a big deal if patients receive it/you encourage the use of it since hospitals are a-okay with it. Now I wonder why we don't have that! Anything to prevent straight cathing!

I agree. I don't think you have to be black and white on what your beliefs are about the use of western medicine or alternative therapies. However, depending on where you are working, I doubt that peppermint oil was ordered by the doctor and/or can be given to a postpartum patient by you, the nurse. Unless you have some type of policy that allows the nurse to use peppermint oil, I wouldn't be giving it to my patients. Even if it is beneficial to some patients, what if a patient developed an allergic reaction to it and your hospital has no policy indicating that the nurse is able to give patients peppermint oil? What then? Practicing outside your scope? Patient endangerment? Just because you believe it to be beneficial and safe does not mean that the hospital endorses/shares this belief. Also, I was not entirely familiar with peppermint oil so I did a little research and I found no where where it indicates that it is beneficial to use for problems voiding. However, you did say there is a good amount of research that shows it IS beneficial, could you post please? And, I did read that breastfeeding mothers should not take peppermint oil because of the unknown effects it has on lactation and breastmilk; being potentially harmful to mother and infant. Any research you have on that? But the main point is that if you are working for an institution that does not endorse the use of peppermint oil (or anything for that matter) for postpartum and/or breastfeeding mothers, I would not continue giving it.

I always wondered for people who do this, does it make their hair greasy at all? I use a normal amount of shampoo and kinda too much conditioner so my hair is not dry. However, I do notice my ends are brittle a lot if I don't style it... So I do wonder if I stopped using shampoo if my ends would not be brittle but then I worry about my hair being greasy.

I don't understand how a job you held in high school would have any influence on your pay as a nurse, say at least 4-5 years later with your nursing education and previous RN experience? Was the job even in healthcare? I also don't know who would accuse someone of lying about a job they had in high school when they are applying for an RN position?? That's weird.

I would choose the ortho floor as some of the knowledge can transfer to peds in your skill set. You won't be seeing too many strokes in the pediatric population... I hope. Although there are some neurological problems and skills you may see on the stroke floor that would help with pediatrics, however, the number of those occurring on a typical stroke floor is likely not very high. You probably won't be seeing too many hip or knee replacements in peds either but to me it seems more relatable to pediatrics with x-rays, treatments, and the like...

In my hospital, LPN's do not take any L&D. On only very rare occasions, we will have a LPN float to our unit to take mom-babies, but even then, the LPN's only get to do care on moms; no babies. So while there may be opportunities out there, I wouldn't rely solely on getting in that unit or even if you do, being able to fully care for the patients as your scope/hospital may limit you on what you can do.

What is your problem? You have been the most condescending, arrogant, poster I have ever come across on allnurses. A simple, "No, I believe circumcision to be unnecessary" would suffice. However, you have continually come to calling people names and say people are "slicing up memberes" as if people intend to hurt their children. The same could be said about you being dedicated. Except you are dedicated in a much different and volatile way. You always come back to make an unnecessary comment, not adding anything to the conversation. If you perhaps put your dedication elsewhere instead of putting people down based on your own personal opinion, you might actually make somewhat of a change in an issue you apparently feel so strongly about. An example is actually putting forth legitimate reasoning behind your statements. Research studies are an example. Better yet, you could conduct your own research. Anything is better than what you are currently doing, especially if you want anyone to change their beliefs to match yours.

All in all, the thread has turned into nothing logical. Everything is refuted with personal opinions or ignored, not even hitting what was being discussed. But you know what? I'm happy. Happy because the CDC is supposably biased so that parents can continue to make the decision for their children. So there you have it. Cry all you want about it and claim beliefs are facts, but it isn't changing anything soon. Decide what you want to do. Stay out of other people's decisions for their children. Plain and simple. If you don't get it/are too arrogant to admit that not everybody should share your view point then maybe you should focus on yourself and not others, because you obviously have bigger problems than if other parents choose for their child's member to have a foreskin or not.

Thanks for explaining further and I do agree in the thinking that most males are happy with their memberes. I don't think one way or the other is right or wrong but some people do think that, whether it be for health or cosmetic reasons. This is why I think there should be a choice in the matter. There is research supporting health benefits (whether it is accepted or not) from circumcision however there are risks associated with circumcising infants, we know this. But the main concern I see is that the infants do not get to choose for themselves whether they are circumcised or not. I understand this and am open to the parents making the decision to not circumcised their infant. I have no problem with that. However, I feel it is a bit of backtracking when some say they want their child to decide on his own, but when faced with medical benefits of the procedure and the reasoning for the timing, they are quick to say that the medical benefits are untrue/biased/the same outcomes as with non-circumcised children/adults. So I have a hard time believing that the real reason they do not circumcise their child is because they want the child to decide for themselves. From the responses on this thread, it's pretty clear that some do not believe any health benefits are associated with circumcision, thus the real reasoning hiding behind "I want my child to decide". I am in no way claiming anyone thinks this, but this is what I get from this entire thread. Atlas, the point of the thread, should the CDC educate non-circumcised males about circumcision, seems like it would be a hit with those that "want their child to decide for themselves". But then we are faced with responses like, "the CDC is biased", "the CDC has inaccurate data", "the CDC should mind their own business", etc. etc. If parents really wanted their child to decide for themselves, wouldn't they like that the CDC teachs the child about the possibility of circumcision for their health? Well, no says the consensus. Why? Possibly because they believe the CDC is biased/has untrue data? If parents who opt to not circumcise their infants believe that circumcision provides no health benefits, why say you want your child to decide for themselves? If you don't think circumcision helps anything and tell your children there are no benefits from circumcision, why would you say you are letting your child decide? There are no medical benefits from botox, but if your child decided they wanted botox to have higher cheek bones like the rest of their class, would you let your 10 year old get botox? No? Why not? If you believe there are no medical benefits to circumcision nor botox, you would not let your child endure either. Right? But what do I know? I just want parents to continue to decide on their own for what their child has/doesn't have. I don't want intactivists to determine what everyone should and shouldn't be when they are clearly biased. I want parents to decide, based on their thoughts, not someone elses. I really would appreciate a well thought-out reply from someone who has something to say about what I have brought up because lately, good points are ignored because of the lack of substance in rebuttal.

I would be mindful of where you stand right now. The OP is no newbie here, you on the other hand, this is your first post. Not knocking your experience but it isn't the best start by being new to a site and being so condescending. AFWIW, I'm pretty sure that, yes, the OP has 21 years of experience.

This is strange. OP vents a little about CNA, gets attacked by mob of angry strangers for being too cruel about CNA... Who's attacking who?

Unbelievable. So now a circumcised member is wrong? Wow. It amazes me how judgmental people can be when they are protesting for infants to be able to decide for themselves. You want people to make decisions for themselves unbiasedly but sit there and call one of the options wrong? Yea, not biased at all... At least the people who are pro-choice for the parents are not criticizing someone else body. This is exactly why it should be left up to the parents to decide for their children because we have ding-bats, for lack of a better word, who call their beliefs, fact.

If the CDC needs to mind their own business, so do the pro-foreskin community. Let parents decide for THEIR children!

I'm not against OP for anything. This is an isolated incident where the OP got to stick it to the man, which they though was funny... Know one knows who this CNA is except the OP. The CNA could be a nightmare and by the looks of it, the CNA probably is if the OP gets a small piece of amusement out of this. I think some are jumping the gun in thinking that the OP is being too hard. Maybe she isn't being hard enough... No one will know because the OP is the only one who actually knows the person.

First people are saying circumcision should be a choice for their child. Now it's, that circumcision isn't necessary. So which is it? Why would you give your child a choice on the matter anyways, no matter what age if you didn't think it was necessary. Because you wouldn't? If would never be brought up at the dinner table because YOU don't think it is necessary. If those against circumcision want their sons to be able to masturbate easier and decide for themselves to have a circumcision then do it. The chances that a male, when matured enough to think what procedures he wants for himself, will actually ask his parents, HCP, or really anyone else about circumcision is rare. By time he seriously thinks about getting it done if it is what he really wants, he will have probably already been married or exposed to UTI's. Unless of course the parents talk about the option of circumcision with their children (MALE AND FEMALE) at the age of puberty so those children can decide for themselves before engaging in sexual acts. However, by the attitude of this thread, I don't think those kids will get that education from their parents or at least unbiased information. If you sit there and tell them it does nothing for their health, the risks of surgery, or that they can't masturbate as easy, I doubt any of them would get it done because you only feed them your beliefs and not actual research of the benefits/risks of circumcision. All of this so, I don't care what you do to your child's member. Just please, stop worrying about what everyone else does with their memberes. The whole point is that CDC wants to educate males who are not circumcised about the procedure UNBIASEDLY, which they should because some people will fail to do so. This isn't a thread on if circumcision is right or wrong, this is a topic about education, so please stop pushing your beliefs that circumcision is wrong on to everybody. Nobody is asking you/or cares if you think circumcision is right or wrong, they are asking if education is essential to uncircumcised males. Which you should be FOR since you want your child to decide for themselves, not you deciding for them.

What I don't get, is those against circumcision feel it isn't necessary. However, there is data that shows it can reduce problems in the future. But if those against circumcision want their sons to be able to masturbate easier and decide for themselves to have a circumcision then do it. The chances that a male, when matured enough to think what procedures he wants for himself, will actually ask his parents, HCP, or really anyone else about circumcision is rare. By time he seriously thinks about getting it done if it is what he really wants, he will have probably already been married or exposed to UTI's. Unless of course the parents talk about the option of circumcision with their children (MALE AND FEMALE) at the age of puberty so those children can decide for themselves before engaging in sexual acts. However, by the attitude of this thread, I don't think those kids will get that education from their parents or at least unbiased information. If you sit there and tell them it does nothing for their health, the risks of surgery, or that they can't masturbate as easy, I doubt any of them would get it done because you only feed them your beliefs and not actual research of the benefits of circumcision. All of this so, I don't care what you do to your child's member. Just please, stop worrying about what everyone else does with their memberes. The whole point is that CDC wants to educate males who are not circumcised about the procedure UNBIASEDLY, which they should because some people will fail to do so. This isn't a thread on if circumcision is right or wrong, this is a topic about education, so please stop pushing your beliefs that circumcision is wrong on to everybody. Nobody is asking you/or cares if you think circumcision is right or wrong, they are asking if education is essential to uncircumcised males.

At my graduation, it seems EVERYBODY had a cord of some sort, some for not even doing anything for them. Well, let me be the first to tell you how weird it felt that I, one of maybe 5 people, DIDN'T have a cord to put around my lovely neck. I felt a little left out, with some students boasting 4 or 5 cords, and a little ticked that I graduated with a 3.495, 0.005 GPA points off from getting the "honors cord". But you know what the best of all of it was? Myself and another student, who was one of the students who was whipping her 4-some cords around in the air, making sure everybody saw what achievements she made, had applied for the same job. Guess who got offered the job? That's right, ME; just me and my bare neck. I didn't have any fancy rewards on my resume as I had not received any, but that didn't mean anything when it came time to get a job, a job in one of my preferred specialities at that. So just remember, school is school, work is work. There is a big difference and how you were perceived to do in school isn't what most managers rely on/even take in account when hiring you. Let them receive their little papers saying they are the "Best at... blah blah blah" while you collect your paper with Benjamins on them.

While these things may be true, none of it is hurting the child's well-being, as with males not circumcised, they generally do not have to worry their well-being. So what's the issue? Circumcised babies won't be able to masturbate as easy? That a small piece of skin is removed to potentially reduce the risk of diseases/complications later in life? While I do agree with your answer on what comes after circumcision, I don't believe it is such a "barbaric procedure" to go as far to say "a human rights issue". No, a human rights issue is taking away rights from a person. Parents decide to have children, and they are their legal guardians who have a RIGHT to make decisions for THEIR children. If people don't agree with the decisions that other parents make for their children, then have your own children and raise them the way you want to raise them. Don't parade around an yell "human rights issue" on anything YOU don't agree with. (BTW Ayvah, this is not directed at you, I feel you provided a reasonable and accurate response, which shows what the REAL issue is, i.e. people want the world to revolve around their beliefs.) And while I do agree with you on feeding a child as a basic need and that breastfeeding is better, the mothers who are ABLE to breastfeed but choose not to have that right to decide for themselves and their child. However, I used this as an example because like you said, breastfeeding is better, but some people still choose to formula feed even if they can breastfeed safety. What I am getting at is that if both options do not harm the child's well-being, why is there an issue of what parents decide to choose for their children? Oh I forgot, the child will be able to think for themselves when they grow up and will be disappointed their parents decided to remove their foreskin. And why are they disappointed they don't have a foreskin? Because of looks? Because they can't masturbate easier? Because they don't have to clean their member as much? Because they possibly have less diseases? Because when they get older, they may have severe problem with their foreskin that they are just dying to acquire? I have no problem with parents deciding to not circumcise. I'm just saying it is a choice and should stay that way.