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Any Substitute School Nurses Here?
I subbed in a couple of different districts the previous couple of years. I would say the calls were split as far as advance notice goes. Some calls/texts were days or weeks in advance for planned days off and others were early in the morning or the night before for illnesses. You will be a lot busier towards the end of the year when everyone has vacation time to take. For the majority of the time, when I subbed I was only expected to 'just take care of the kids', no admin work unless I wanted to. After subbing for awhile, I realized school nursing is where I wanted to be, earlier in this calendar year (last school year) I actually left my job to sub full time. After I had given my notice though, an opportunity came up to fill in as a full-time long term sub for half of a year, which then, fortunately for me, turned into a full-time position for this year. So I made the leap to leave my job to sub full time, but was just in the right place at the right time for it to morph right into a full time position. If you're okay with sporadic income (I was a stay at home parent before becoming a nurse, so my family was used to only one income), and the districts are busy enough, I'd say go for it...although my only hesitation would be to consider how awkward would it be if you had to work in your current school?
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What do you wear to work as a school nurse?
When I was subbing in another district it was business casual. Where I am now, it's scrubs. The philosophy behind the scrubs is that it makes us easily identifiable in crowds (outside for fire drill/emergency, in the gymnasium/auditorium, etc). Not only for students and regular staff but for substitutes as well. But it brings up the question, do we WANT to be easily identified!!! "Oh your toe has been hurting for 3 days now? Hmmmmmm. Oh look, I see the nurse!"
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I'm Joining The Club
Hey all! I posted here awhile ago, but haven't posted much lately. I was a long term sub last year that got hired full time for this upcoming year. I cover 2 schools: pre-k to 8th, and elementary (2nd-5th). I'm REALLY looking forward to it!
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Friday!
Glad to see there are other LAX parents here. My son has been playing for several years now, is in the juniors league and plays D....He loves it. I help coach my daughter's bantam team (the 2nd year for both of us). It's comical as I never played and only know what I've seen while watching my son practice/play. But all they need is someone willing to help teach fundamentals and keep it fun and entertaining, which fits my goofy personality, so it works. We all have a blast! I never knew about the sport growing up, it really is interesting to watch.
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Introduction
Thanks all! And as far as wearing red/pink goes, Fetch is as Fetch does!!
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Introduction
Hey All, I figured I'd throw my hat into the ring as far as introductions go. I've been lurking for over a year, since I started subbing. I now work in an elementary school (and float when needed) and LOVE being a school nurse. I only have a couple of years of nursing under my belt, but many years of experience as an EMT and at-home dad. You are a great bunch here (but you already know that!!!) and I look forward to reading your posts. I'm too busy during the day, but usually catch up in the evenings or wee hours while drinking coffee before the rest of the house wakes up. Cheers to you all, and thanks for being an awesome resource for a newer school nurse!!
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Nurse vs Para
A para asked me to take a child's temp the other day because he "looks like he has a fever". 98.2*F. The best part is that she was ready to take him back after just a temp check. It didn't occur to her that, you know, I may assess further for any other symptoms.
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Adderall tabs question
I have a student that takes her pill sandwiched between two mini marshmallows. Mom brought in a little tub of them so she picks out her two marshmallows while I get the pill. She puts it between, smushes them together, pops in her mouth and off she goes. It's the only way she's ever taken it, so probably the only way she ever will!
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Do you hold drunks against their will?
Agreed. It isn't right. It all starts with the person initiating the 9-1-1 call. If they aren't willing to assume care/responsibility for the patient, the cops don't want the liability, EMS doesn't want the liability, so the end of the line is the ER. it's all because 'what if', and no one wants that on their hands.
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Do you hold drunks against their will?
Generally, yes (about assuming), and I agree. But it's a standard of care for prehospital providers (EMS) to not take refusals from certain demographics. I'm not disagreeing that it's not ideal, but once again it comes down to liability. It sounds like the family wasn't willing to take responsibility for the patient's condition. Maybe the patient is a RAGING drunk and the family wanted to cut it off before it got to a more dangerous point. I also work in EMS, and am put in this sticky situation more than I'd like. But it is what it is. I've also responded to plenty of 'possible DOA' calls because friends/family wanted to let the person 'sleep it off' at home. Are THOSE families being twits and dealing? The ones who are crying because they found their loved one blue with rigor mortis and a mouth full of vomit? ETOH and refusals (or just refusals in general) are probably the most frustrating part of EMS....but if someone is concerned enough to actually dial 9-1-1 for it, then the patient in question should probably be evaluated, as a precaution.
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Do you hold drunks against their will?
Liability. Family was concerned about the amount of alcohol consumed, drunk patient didn't want to go to the hospital. Whose side do they stand on?? Well, there are a few instances where ambulance crews cannot accept a refusal from a patient: if they are minors, if there are psychiatric issues, and if there is impairment (alcohol or drugs). Pretty much if they are unfit to make decisions for themselves, you treat and transport under 'implied consent'. You assume that any reasonable person under similar situations would want medical care and treatment.
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Ridiculous Reasons to See the Nurse
Yesterday a boy was sent from recess to the health office because of dog poop on his shoe. Not fresh just-stepped-in stuff, but dried on, only on the bottom, stuck in the grooves, can't remove by wiping stuff. Since the child was there, I did attempt to remove it but wasn't able to easily and I had 4 others in the office with me so I didn't make it a priority. I'm just a sub, so I don't know the teachers well...but I haven't seen a lot of frivolous reasons like that there...yet.
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Tips for a new grad on short term rehab unit
Congrats on the new title you've earned and the new job! I'm also in my first year of licensure and also work in-patient rehab. Learn your orthopedic precautions, so you know how your patients can and cannot move, turn, position, etc. Co-morbidities is a big deal in rehab, so while we're treating people for a knee replacement, they may also have uncontrolled HTN or DM. Also, you won't just have "hips and knees", people are in rehab for new ostomies, post CVAs, Resp Failure, UTI, general Weakness, pacemaker placement, etc. So refreshing yourself on CHF, COPD and other respiratory issues that would cause a decline in health status would help. A lso, refresh on S/Sx of PEs & blood clots would help as well. Patients are less-mobile then normal and are more prone to those. For the orthopedic patients, pain control is a big deal, as if they are in pain they won't be able to participate in PT/OT and may delay their healing process. So keep pain control in mind when doing your med pass. I've found it best (for me) to do my med pass based on PT schedule...After diabetics, priority goes to those that go to PT first. And as the previous poster said, don't hesitate to ask questions...it's a really great area to gain experience as you see a good variety of types of patients. Good luck!
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Attitude towards Per Diem's?
We are grateful for the per diem nurses in our facility. If they didn't fill in the gaps, our workloads would be that much more. So we are thankful and help them in any way that we can whenever they are there.
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Grade levels. Pros and cons?
I sub in the local school district and have been at all levels. In the year I've been subbing, this is what I've discovered: *Being a "people-person" who likes to interact and try to figure things out, I like the 3rd-5th grade the best. The kids are old enough to at least answer questions to help you figure things out. You can provide some education and at that age, they start to 'get it'. *K-2nd is really fun to interact with the kids, but sometimes hard to interpret so you just have to go with what you see. *Middle School is okay, they are more independent, but as a previous poster said, they tend to be a little sneakier. Plus, as I said, I'm a 'people-person', and they usually want nothing to do with talking to an adult. *High School is quick "desktop nursing". The kids are uber-independent, tell you exactly what they want or need and usually doesn't require in-depth assessments (for the routine stuff). The kids only have the 2-3 min between classes to see you, so it's a really quick visit, save for extenuating circumstances. I thought I would have a problem with 'the kids' while working there, but they are fine...I just don't love that kind of nursing. As I said, this is my first year subbing, so my observations are based on limited experience. But I happily work wherever I am needed, because I like working with all the kids.
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do you have a previous degree?
B.S in Business Administration, Concentration: Management. I ran a business for about 7 years, but left to raise my family. I'm a volunteer EMT on the side, and love the 'helping others' part of it, so when it was time to re-enter the workforce I decided to go to nursing school rather than back to retail management. My business background helps dealing with the administration side of things, and my EMS experience helped/helps in many ways, but one of the biggest advantages was in nursing school. I was very comfortable getting 'up close and personal' with patients from the get-go in the first semester...while others had to compose themselves before entering the room just to do an assessment.
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New Nurse in Rehab Experiences
I'm a big fan of the 'checkbox' method. At the bottom of the brain sheet we use is enough space to jot down things that need to be done (things that need looking into, orders to put into the system, etc). I draw a square and then a few words about the task...when completed, I check the box. This also helps when giving report to the oncoming nurse and when charting. Another thing I do with my brain sheet is fold it in almost half, so that the top right corner is nearly touching the top left corner...this way, I can see the room number that's on the front of the page, but with the sheet folded over I have the blank back of the page. This way, I can write down the treatments that need to be done and other patient-specific tasks without using the space on the front of the brain...but it's in sequential order (ours go by room number), so it's easy to track and for quick reference. of course, this is also done with the checkboxes to keep track of progress throughout the shift. It might be hard to visualize (easier to show than describe), but when I learned this method it freed up SO much space on the front of the brain sheet and made things a LOT easier. Hope this helps!
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Getting ready to apply: CT Community Colleges- Nursing Program 2013
Yes, you're not going to hear anything until early April. It does seem to take forever, but just try to keep it out of your mind otherwise it'll drive you batty! Good luck to everyone who applied!
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CT tech lpn program
I don't have any experience with Lincoln Tech, so I can't comment on that. Parking is a non-factor for Capital though, because you have access to a parking garage right across the street. I am a stay at home dad and am a first year student. It is easier for me as both my kids are (finally) in school full time so it makes it easier to study. If you have good time management, you can do it!
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Ready to Apply CT Community Colleges- Nursing Program 2012
@saramisu, Thanks for the info. Hmmmm...IIRC, I think I dropped it off in the first door on the left, but it DID say "nursing secretary" there, I think. I'll probably swing by and double check next week though. Thanks for setting up the FB group!
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Ready to Apply CT Community Colleges- Nursing Program 2012
@mssjez, how did it go dropping off the health form? I went a few weeks ago and according to the secretary the person who they go to wasn't available but said she would give it to her....when I followed up with that person via email (to make sure she got my packet) I got an automated response saying she was on vacation until February 12th! Ugh. Can you please PM the name of the person you gave it to, so I can see if I was given the right contact name? Thanks!!!
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Where to buy scrubs, etc.?
I found out that at CCC we need to buy the tops from the school's vendor as they need to be embroidered with the school logo, but the pants we can get anywhere (as long as they are Hunter green).
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Ready to Apply CT Community Colleges- Nursing Program 2012
No, no, no, mssjez...you are thinking about it all wrong! Keep the money in the grocery budget because you have to eat...take it out of 'entertainment'. After all, we'll be too busy studying to have a life!! Thanks for linking to those pharm cards. I'm going to spend some time this summer downloading useful stuff like that from this site into a folder -- to refer back to later so I don't have to search through here looking for them when I need them! Nursewannabe86, if you KNOW you need the vaccine, it makes sense to go that route. Although it probably wouldn't hurt to check with them to get a final say. BTW, congrats on finishing up Micro!!!