NJMike

Wow. This post is a whole new low for allnurses. It is bad enough that so many newbie/students try to get homework help. Despite what you facebook/genX types think you are supposed to be able to write and edit your own nursing school essay.

^^^This. OP has no clue what this profession requires in the long run.

If you can't stay clean and sober long enough to pass a drug test you know of in advance what will you do when you work for one of the many employers who have random drug testing? Many hospitals do random testing of nursing staff and almost all hospitals, NH, LTC places will test everyone on the floor at the time of an incident. Also most places will test all nursing staff when the count if short. How will you pass random or an *incident based random drug test* if you can't pass a drug screen you knew about.

Over the years I've seen a lot of NEWLY CREATED "first time poster" allnurses accounts ask this same question in various ways. It gets old as the answer is always the same. UCLA WAS helpful in that they gave you the answer all US nursing schools will give you. The truth is thousands of foreigners would like to work as RN's in the US but it's extremely hard to do without being an American citizen/having a social security number.

Hey ncsbn, If you and the state BONs are so concerned about pt safety where's the number I can call to tell pts that rampant hospital short staffing causes errors and even death?!? And where's the number to call to have them drug test members of the national council and all members of state board's of nursing??? We get drug tested regularly. Do you?

^^Best post ever! Agreed. Joe Q. Screwball doesn't need the NCSBN to encourage him not to trust nurses. Why plant that seed? The advertising does sound spiteful because everyone in America knows the consumer has the right to complain about every little thing. All of John Q Public and of course all medical types know they can anonymously complain against a professional RN license. Just another way for the NCSBN to keep the nurses down. Totally agree with all the PROFESSIONAL Nurses who posted. This ad encourages distrust of nurses. We already have MANY checks and balances built into the hiring and constant monitoring process. The Council for Boards of Medicine would never do this to doctors. Shame on the NCSBN! Running this ad was not the least bit necessary.

EXACTLY! OUTRAGEOUS! You'd NEVER seen national council of medical boards advertising. People know how to complain without the advertisement encouraging it.

Originally Posted by Giga To the ones saying they're making extra notes or doing a more detailed version, all I can say is that is not the case in my situation. I know because I've been curious about this for a while so when I'm doing my montly random chart audits I've made a point to pull certain pts that have had X or Y nurse for several days and I've combed through EVERYTHING paper and computer. They most certainly are not taking a longer time because they're doing a more detailed job. I know I'm venting and it is NOT fair to generalized. I was just wondering if anybody else had the same frustrations as me. Maybe I'm just stuck with some LAZY nurses that are stuck in their ways. OP needs to look up the definition of 'random'. She sounds mad that the "old" (read experienced) nurses aren't spending all of their time teaching her how to be a good nurse. Also I question the novice nurse who charts an assessment in 3 minutes. It takes longer to do more complete CYA documentation.

That ad annoys me. That ad campaign was started to get more people into nursing. All the while new grad RNs can't even get jobs in my area. Even experienced nurses are having trouble finding work as nurses. Now they constantly run the one trying to get more people to become nurse instructors. There is no nursing shortage.

In light of the shortage of jobs for new grad RNs there is nothing wrong in doing CNA or LPN work until you get an RN job. I guess you have to clear it with your BON. I know of two recent new grads working as CNA's in hospitals although they have passed nclex. They are job hunting for RN positions while paying their bills with the CNA job.

Agree. A medical mission seems like a good way for a new grad to get some experience to put on his resume. Also call hospitals to see what they accept in the way of RN's who wish to volunteer. Good luck in your job hunt.

Yes good luck in your job search. The military might be a good idea if you like to travel. You are right that the "RN shortage" is a myth I'm starting to think about going back to school to retrain for something with more job options. I'm wondering if there is a related field where jobs are more plentiful. OT or PT maybe. Anywhoo good luck in your job search LDubois.

I agree that the reason one posts a status on face book is to get others to respond. But I also don't think co-workers are the same as friends.

That's why I don't have a fb. I'm sorry this happened to you. I know many nurses like your co-worker. There are so many petty tattle-tales in nursing. Hope you feel better.

My thought exactly. Getting a nursing job will become more competitive as more new nurses graduate. Hospital acuity will rise as length of stay must decrease due to the escalating cost of health care.

Hospitals and nursing homes will always take advantage of nurses if we let them. Take care of YOU.

I read a post on here today by an RN with no experience who has been looking for medical work for awhile. It was suggested that she could get some medical experience by volunteering in a third world country. The poster said that she actually had been thinking of volunteering in a hospital in South America to get experience. Working for free is what they are doing in the Philippines due to the over saturation of RN's. It's sad and devaluing that some US RN's are thinking of volunteering just to get experience and a toe in the door.

What I think is *mean* is that even some RN's with experience (myself included) are having trouble finding F/T jobs.

:up:Great post.

If you get a DUI while off work that most likely will be reported to the BON. If you have an RN job and the employer has reason to believe that you're an alcoholic you'll likely be reported to the BON. If your employer finds a non prescribed or illegal drug in your blood or urine you'll likely be reported to the BON. If you show up for work impaired you WILL be reported to the BON. However it sounds like you are not employed as an RN right now. You went to the ER d/t anxiety over being without work and you told them you had been drinking too much lately... So I don't see why the ER would or should tell the BON what you told them. It's really sad that so many of us nurses live in fear of losing our licenses due to things regular people do all the time. Good luck in the job hunt. There are many nurses in your shoes.

Wow. That link says a lot. It's tough for new grad RN's. I think you have to go into nursing because you love it because you will probably have to compete hard for a job as a new grad.

Originally Posted by 2012_RN2B Well I guess the economy for new grads isnt so bad after all :) This doesn't mean the economy is good for new grads. It just means this hospital is 'using' the new grad's RN license. It's not a safe thing to do but it happens a lot more than it should. When something goes wrong the hospital can easily AND WILL hang the new RN grad out to dry. Lots of new grads suffer through BON complaints when the hospital is or SHOULD be partially responsible for putting them in over their head with too few resources.

sorry "angel" but no dice on this devious tactic. i've worked with a couple of lpn that tried to play your game. the lpn is responsible for her own patients and works under her own lpn license! i used to work with a lazy lpn who thought he could pawn all of his problems off on me by charting "rn made aware". a total bs way of nursing. i quickly got it in writing from the nm that he was responsible for his patients.