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1. Congratulations! 2. my advice is to go interview at the hospital where you want to end up and say nothing about your pregnancy. my rationale is: a) it is really none of their business what is going on in your personal life and whether or not you intend to work on a full time basis or part time basis, based on some future event. b) I think you are kidding yourself if you think you will be hired when you tell them you are already pregnant. You would have to hire a lawyer and file a lawsuit in order to get that protection. c) landing the job and getting your 3-4 months experience before taking a maternity leave will be a chance to show them what a great nurse you are and why they would want to retain you as a PRN or part time nurse following delivery... Going in announcing your pregnancy is just going to be an X against hiring you without them ever knowing your great skills! d) I know you have plans but again they are based on a future event. You might find out you HAVE to work full time, new baby or not. You might find you CAN'T work at all. so go ahead and interview, leave your personal life out of it, get the job you want and then make changes as you need to. It is up to the managers to deal with unexpected glitches like pregnancies. They know about 'em, and they are used to it. YOU don't have to do the manager's job for her... LOL

LOL LOL LOL you go girl

along with the above, esp how many of the original class actually pass NCLEX also ask ratio of students to clinical instructors at clinical sites (8 or less) where are the clinical sites how many instructors are BSNs, MSNs, APRNs, PhDs

Just FYI, I had A&P that was almost 20 years old and my school (BSN-state university) took it. They told me if I felt I wasn't up to speed in the subject it was up to me to take a refresher. A&P is supposed to be there to help you pass the nursing courses that follow...

hmmm... he can't even help out by packing HIS OWN lunch? honey. don't pack his lunch. don't get his coffee ready for the morning. don't wash his thermos. he is a big boy now and he will either go hungry at noon and drink from a stale ol' thermos or he will figure it out without your guidance. Now go back to studying...

Unless you are telling us that it was ONLY men who failed in your program, perhaps you should stay more open minded about this. Male nursing students can fail as well as female ones can. You may not have noticed anything poor about their clinical performance because... you are not their instructor? I think you may be viewing things through a skewed lens. You have posted an emotional message with very little facts, which would be understandable because their performance is not your business. Just posting this to say be careful about accusing nursing programs about having some sort of anger directed towards male nursing students. In my program, we have a track of approximately 60, of which 6 are men and it's been my experience everyone (students and instructors) are pretty happy to have men coming into the field. In fact, they get a little bit too much positive attention... You may have a situation that is limited to your nursing program alone. JMO

It is interesting that the thread is titled: How I plan to pay for nursing school IF I have to use all loans- or The SUNNY PLAN! when really it should be How I plan to keep rolling over debt for nursing school... I think the salient point to keep in mind is even after all these financial shenigans, at the end of the road there is a loan to be repaid back that has also been acruing interest all this time. So I am not sure I see the benefit in this loan paying this loan when there is another loan that is not being paid at all and its interest is not being included in the equation, ya dig?

ahem. your living expenses now include payments on outstanding bills (credit cards, medical...). thus you spend more than you make It is irrelevant how you got there. the real question is what are you going to do about it now. no one is criticizing but these are the facts of your financial situation as you posted them. You cannot make financial decisions based on emotions OR excuses. you would be wise to investigate some financial sites that deal with getting out of debt and the roots of overspending. http://www.suzeorman.com/igsbase/igstemplate.cfm?SRC=DB&SRCN=&GnavID=2

every month after the bank pays you, don't you have to subtract your monthly tuition payment AND living expenses AND repayment on your loan, too?

Since the pay scale and benefits at a university are significantly superior to what a CC can offer, I can see no obvious reason for why you believe this sort of thing would differ from college to college. Perhaps there is something special about your CC that we don't know.

the pelvic fracture doesn't cause the impaired bed mobility but the pain from it does.... got it?

Not likely, since sixty-two million U.S. households, or 55 percent of American homes, had a Web-connected computer way back in 2003. Demographically, nurses would tend to fall into the owner category as opposed to the non owner since both computer ownership and Web use are lower in households comprised of seniors, among blacks and Hispanics and among households comprised of people with less than a high school education. peace yourself

My experience has been that the local university courses are approximately at least a third harder than classes I took at the local CC, not only in nursing but in chemistry, etc. as well. As far as our school of nursing, one reason may be that it is a competitive entry. Most GPA are over 3.5. If by comparison, the CC chooses a random or first come, first served admission, then more than likely the courses would have to be easier in order to maintain any sort of a reasonable graduation rate. Furthermore, the vast majority of our university instructors are Ph.D.s which was not true at the CC. Yes, they may use the same text books but from there, the testing challenge can vary widely. I know this wasn't intended to start a debate, but I think most of us in the CC level who cannot afford university, have families, other careers that we need to support ourselves and have worked our behinds off to get this far will take extreme offense if someone tells us that the grades we got were "inflated" or "manipulated" for the purpose of being taught in the community college setting. Nursing students attending universities also have families, other careers that they need to support themselves and have also worked their behinds off...all factors that hold no relevance in comparing the education one receives at either institution. How can anyone say that that is the "less meaningful" and "less educated" path choice. No one said less meaningful but you have to agree it is a less educated path choice. Same difference between a Bachelor's in Business and an MBA. Less education. In the end we are all "nurses" and after one passes NCLEX and works and proves to be an inadequate nurse, that is reflective of that individual Regardless of the quality of the individual, you cannot discount the education as well. Becoming a good nurse is multi-factorial, and one of the key factors is education.

hmm.... if what you say is true, then the next question begging to be asked is: how come the RNs don't have their own...

Hi Suki-P, Based on the things you have revealed in your post above: a) you don't know what federal taxes are based on b) you think cashing out a 401K is a GOOD thing I would advise you to seek out a good, objective financial advisor before you make another move...

ya know, you can "claim" the same thing

depends what the objective is: if i want to just pass a test-- cram if i want to learn the material-- every night, and then supplement with research articles, etc.

it may be the policy but it is not recommended from a legal standpoint. This is per an article in the May 2003 Journal of Nursing Education that studied grade appeals. "Faculty should not decrease a student's grade if some other measure will achieve the objective for which the teacher is striving. For example, if a student is absent from a clinical experience, his or her grade should not be reduced if the absence is legitimate and can be made up."

I would not say you necessarily have a lawsuit yet but you certainly have grounds for a grade appeal. Due process for academic misconduct (poor grades) requires that student be adequately notified about their academic performance, including the deficiences that must be improved and within what time frames, to allow their potential continuation in the program. Due process is a guaranteed right under the fourteenth amendment. I'll post again with some articles to give you further ideas. One BIG suggestion, go to your university ombudsman to see what options you have. Those guys are masters are conflict resolution, and it is free and confidential beside. good luck. legal aspects of grading and student progression.pdf

I've heard a lot of people say the LPN programs end up being as long as the RN programs because of pre-reqs. Depending on the program you may also need statistics, organic chem and nutrition. Just get the bachelor's done and over with the first time since that is your ultimate goal anyway.

Now Trauma, you know intubation and intraosseous needle sticks aren't comparable to IM injx and IV starts. In fact, if they were, RN's could do 'em. So I am not sure what point you were trying to make. :trout: But I digress. One semester in our clinical rotation, we had the option of starting IV's on each other, but only if our fellow student agreed. And not if they refused.

Getting a BSN does not take that much longer than an ADN once you add in pre-reqs. If you are looking towards being an RN and stopping your career there for the next 30 years, by all means go for the ADN. If you want to think more long term, consider going directly for the BSN. Most RN to BSNs have told me they wish they had just done the whole thing the first time. BSNs have more advancement opportunities and furthermore, with a bachelor's degree in something you have more job opportunities period. It is my opinion (and only my opinion) that ADNs will be phased out. There is simply too much pressure from society for higher education. Twenty years ago, when you and I were 16, going to college was an option. Now it is not. The ADN is becoming the equivalent of the high school diploma in terms of the job market. The BSN is becoming the entry level degree. With 30 more years to work, I would get a BSN and then start working on a master's. Again, just my opinion.

i was just wondering if its this hard to get into nursing school allover the country..... yes. at least your school fills slots on first come, first served. Our school had 1000 applicants for 70 slots and they only took the cream of the crop. Admission here is on a first come, first served basis (as long as you meet all the criteria).... so does that mean i'll have to camp out infront of the school? If first come, first served is truly all it takes to get into the school, you better believe I would have my Coleman and sleeping bag out there in front of the door the night before LOL iam 26 and the mom of two kids- am i gonna be the freak of the class, or is it common to start a nursing career a little later and not straight out of hs? Nursing students come in all shapes, sizes and places. You will not be a freak. You will be just another nursing student, trying to survive school. Best of luck!