Complicated Staffing Question

Specialties Ob/Gyn

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Ok, I know there are a lot of threads out there regarding staffing. I've looked at a lot of them and still cannot find an answer. Here's the problem. We are a very small unit: 3 labor rooms, 4 "other" rooms. We have 200+ deliveries a year. We are an all RN unit. We usually staff 2 nurses per shift (12 hour shifts). We have no unit clerk, no aids, the only other help we have is housekeeping to clean the patient rooms.

Our nursing staff has recently voiced concerns about staffing. Our nurse manager thinks it's appropriate for one nurse to have 3 stable couplets. Now I don't have a problem with that at all. But she says that the other nurse can go home on call. Leaving one nurse on the unit with essentially 6 patients.

The other day she sent one of the nurses home when we had one stable couplet and one late post-partum bleed who was receiving blood. That's just not safe!

My other concern is that she just doesn't "get it". She hasn't been a staff nurse for a long time and has never been a staff nurse at our hospital. She also won't help out when we need it, or else she doesn't realize that we need help and will just leave at the scheduled 3pm.

My problem with the staffing guidelines posted is that they don't take into consideration a small unit with total care. And I mean total care as in total care of the whole unit, which includes stocking, making charts, answering phones and all of the other piddly stuff that needs to get done.

Do any of you out there have staffing guidelines for a smaller total care unit? I think we need to get guidelines and stick to them or else our patients are going to be in danger.

Of course the reasoning for this is the almighty dollar.

I work at a hospital that has 4 L&D rooms with 2 "backup" rooms where we can monitor but they have regular hospital beds not delivery beds. We do 250 to 350 deliveries a year.

When we have no patients on the unit, usually sunday nights one nurse is put on call and one has to stay and float to other units with a spectralink phone in case a patient presents to ER .

We all feel this is incredibly unsafe but we are told that they can't staff for "what if"!

We keep saying its not "what if" Its WHEN something happens. I have had to work alone several times. I tell the house supervisor (who is there only until 9pm on weekends) How uncomfortable I am being alone. I tell Respiratory that If I call they better come running and the charge nurse on the tele unit on the same floor that if I call they better come!.

I am worried should something go wrong I will lose my Licence!

Specializes in Maternal - Child Health.

I just had another thought. Does your hospital close the ER and send the nurses home on the (rare) occasions that there are no patients, or do they always remain staffed with at least 2 nurses/support people?

OB should be no different in terms of staffing. It is an emergency-admit unit that must always be staffed as such.

Jolie I would also get the OBs on your side. Do they know that they are admitting their patients to a unit that is not properly staffed to handle emergencies? It hospital administration truly believes that their staffing plan is safe and adequate, then ask them to put it in writing to the attending physicians and potential patients. It would read something like this, "Our beautiful birthing unit is staff by highly qualified professional nurses who will provide 1:1 care to you during your labor, unless you happen to arrive in the middle of the night. Then we suggest that you call ahead so that we can phone your nurse at home and ask her to get here before you do.

I am going to have to share that with my fellow nurses !!! Our OB is wishy washy and doesn't stand up to most of her patients let alone managment!

Specializes in NICU, M/B, GU/GYN.

We are also running into that problem. If we have one mom baby couplet or no patients at the time, the hospital is staffing down to one RN. They don't understand you have to staff like an ER and be prepared for anything. Also, do any of you take gyn patients on your floor to justify staffing or if not busy float to other floors? If so, do you take patients or help out until you get a patient on the OB floor?

Not only do we take Gyn patients we take Ortho's Hips, Knees, shoulders, kyphoplasty. Lap chole's , Breast biopsy ohhh lets see Kidney Stones, ABD pain. As long as they are women and "clean" we take em! some are really not appropriate for a L&D unit. Plus at night we routinly have 2 nurses so if we are laboring and have a delivery that goes bad the patients dont see anyone for a long time. Not fair to them either.

I had a G3P2 come in saying she was 28 weeks cramping might have ruptured put her on the bed nitrazine neg underwear dry no visible fluid, no complaints of feeling like pushing went to bathroom to give urine sample. Started grunting delivered in toilet. Imagine my suprise! thank goodness we had 2 nurses the other nurse called Doc from the bedside phone and Called Resp. Got mom back to bed while carrying infant who was wailing and I am thinking this isn't a 28 week infant.

8 minutes elapsed from patients arrival to unit until the Doc was called. So please tell me If I had been by myself how that would have been a safe situation?

Infant weight 7-15. and Exam put infant at 38 weeks .Mom had come in the year before complaining of stomach pain and the ER was palpating her abd and oh wow something kicked them. She denied being pregnant. Delivered our New Years baby 20 min later. Mom has a bit of a problem with dates and oh knowing she is pregnant at all.

Specializes in L&D, PostPartum.

I work in a new hospital (open just under a year) with just 4 LDRP's and a C/S OR. I work weekend nights, and almost always by myself. We don't always have a person on call to come in if I have a pt show up which has happened a few times. It's scary and frustrating. The house supervisor will come to help if needed, and make phone calls as necessary. There are also many nights (usually Fri.) and most weekend day with no nurse scheduled. Aministration is aware of this, as well as the OB doc. OB doc has mentioned to nursing staff, Mgt, and administration that he wants 2 nurses here at all times. But that very seldom happens, including day shifts. I have worked days and nights to cover shifts. It's very scary at the thought of what could happen. I have considered going back to the hospital I transferred from but the staffing there isn't much better.

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