Nursing student thinking about quitting due to other nurses attitudes.

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The following email was sent to me by someone that I know asking for input. All of the names, and key identifying details of both the instructors, student, and locations have also been altered to protect the person's privacy. Honestly, I don't know what to say to this person because my wife comes home almost everynight in tears (she recently started an ICU position, I know many of you have objected in the past to my referencing her issues, but her experience in many ways mirrors this person's, which if nothing else proves that it's not just a male/female issue). I don't know how to change the hearts of people who seem to be inclined not to like you. What would you say to this person?

So, the title may be a little misleading. I am not thinking about quitting Nursing school. However, I am already thinking of what else I can do with a nursing degree other than a floor nurse. We are currently on the 3rd floor, which is a neuro and orthopedic unit. The patient care is not overwhelming and I have learned a great deal from this particular unit. However, the nurses are extremely abrasive and they have that "Mrs X, Mrs. Y" (these are two instructors that we had together who were considered abrasive and unsympathetic by many students) attitude. During our clinical prep work we "discovered" that someone was going to receive an unsat day from the week prior (as you know we only get two before being required to drop the course). Everyone was on pins and needles during prep work and no one slept well. During clinicals the following morning Mrs T. (my clinical instructor) informed us that a nurse telephoned the Dept. Chair. Dr. Big the day after our previous clinical and informed her that (student nurse A) used the incorrect tape while doing a dressing change. Dr. Big immediately ordered Mrs T (my clinical instructor) to render an unsat day.

Here is the kicker. 1.) Mrs. T assisted student nurse A in the dressing change 2.) The patient was not allergic to the tape student nurse A used 3.) Nothing negative occured because "the wrong" tape was used. For whatever reason, the nurse was upset that student nurse A did not use the type of tape she normally uses. My question is, why is something so minor so blown out of proportion?

Call me crazy, call me paranoid but I adamantly believe I have encountered two particular nurses who do not like me soley because I am male. One nurse in particular goes straight to Dr. Big if I "did not do something correctly." For instance, this man hater approached me at 9:30 am on Thursday and stated, "I need you to discontinue your patients PCA pump." I replied, "ok, I will get my instructor to watch me." Keep in mind, there are 10 people in my clinical and aside from giving oral meds and making assessments we HAVE to have Mrs. T approve or assist us. As you already know, the PCA is full of morphine. Obviously, a student is prohibited from disassembling the machine and wasting the morphine.

I alerted Mrs. T. to my scheduled task and she replied, "OK, we will do it later." In the meantime, I continue with patient care on BOTH of my patients (yes we now have to prep for two patients and do total patient care for both). At a little before 11am my nurse informed Mrs. T that she has already d/c the pump and that I was no where to be found. Oddly enough I was in my patients room giving him a bed bath. Mrs. T comes in and begins lecturing me. Insisting that I was not working with my nurse, etc...

About an hour later the nurse then goes up to Mrs. T not me and informs her that I did not chart my neurovascular checks on one of my patients. I admit, I did indeed forget to chart that particular assessment but why couldn't the nurse approach me about it? Sure enough I got another grand lecture from Mrs. Cooper in front of everyone. Needless to say I was not happy.

Roland, I have no clue what to do. I only have one semester left, so switching majors is not an option. But at the same time, I just don't see myself being a floor nurse. The attitudes are almost unbarable. Whenever I am around these nurses I remain silent and avoid them as much as possible. Infact, I think I am starting to become a little bitter and jaded, which is something that I do not want.

Again, I like working with the patients and am compatible with the role of a nurse but am not compatible with "nurses." I have to get into a position of management, research or something. Any ideas, any suggestions?

Even though doctors have a reputation for being condescending, I would much rather be around a Dr. than a nurse. While addressing student nurse A's clinical unsat day Mrs T said, "I don't know why but women love to talk and love to tattle tale. For some reason it's part of who we are."

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Specializes in CCU, ICU, Cardio Pul', Hospice.

Hey.. tell them not to give up... pardon my language.. but some people are assess no matter where they are and there are a lot in health care.... what can I say.. I earned my title... I call em like I see em.. I have had to deal with them over and over and again.... and quite frankly.. the addage.. nurses like to eat their young... is still alive and kicking.

Not everyone is like that..... . however... about your instructors... unfortunately.. they have to be brutal... keep in mind... some nursing mistakes.. or forgetfull ness with some things.. can cost lives.... I can understand why they did that... and depending on any other type of pain medication they might have given your PCA patient... with the PCA not discontinued... might have led the pt. to an overdose... so yeah... that was kinda important.. however.. if you are not allowed to do that.. you might have told that nurse... you were not allowed to do that and she needed to take that up with your instructor.

You might be a student.. but you still have the right to stand up for yourself... dont let them walk all over you.

I know its difficult to document on time... you get pulled in so many directions.. that will come with time... you will learn how to put that in your schedule... you will find what comes naturally for you.

Nursing school has not now nor ever has been a piece of cake... its a hard long road of insanity... and I am glad I will never have to put myself through it again... bare with it.. dont give up... its always darkest before the light.

Also keep in mind.. and even though I am a midnight nurse... many many many nurses.... on days.. Im not saying all... but many find students another obstacle to their day.. as if they didn't have enough going on.. and their schedule is tight enough..now a student comes along..and slows it down even more...

Take it with a grain of salt, don't let it bother you.... you will have to get a backbone.. working in healthcare... there will be people who will eat you alive... and then there will be others.. who will try their hardest to make sure you excell in any area you wish to be in.

When you apply.. and if you apply to that hospital.... don't apply to that floor... go somewhere else.. medsurg is medsurg... whether its pulmonary, cardiac, ortho, neuro, uro...

And keep in mind... some instructors have been doing this so long.. they are bitter... and need to leave... I had a few instructors like that.. then again.. I had some absolutely wonderful instructors... that taught me INCREDIBLE life lessons...

Tell your friend.. to bite the bullet.. its not like they can take away your birthday.... you can get through this... vent.. *****... whatever you need to do to get through it.. when you do... you will be so happy that you did.

and might I add.... even though the care plans... is some good information.... I found them to be a complete waste of time... you do have to know your drugs.. you do have to know what your looking for in your assessments.. and your goals... where they need to be heading.. but the insanity of making the care plans... ICKKKKKKKKKKK that wont happen....

Gosh.. I wish you hadn't dropped out... you can do it... you really can.. go back next semester..

Best wishes,

Rae

Specializes in LTC, Med/Surg, Peds, ICU, Tele.

Your friend needs to stick it out, many people have encountered this sort of weird hazing in nursing school and have survived. Tell your friend to swallow his pride and take it on the chin. Once he's out of school he can seek employment in a healthier environment. After all, he has only one semester to go, it would be ridiculous to quit now.

Just get through school.

Keep a record of this #^$*&+=, though, your own private notebook. Did anyone bother to TELL you there was a certain tape required????? If so , shame on you for not using it, if not, well, how would you know to use it? :angryfire:angryfire:angryfire

About the PCA pump - you should have gotten back to the witch and told her you had let your Instructor know and it would be done ASAP, when the I became available, and asked if that would be ok, and given her a time estimate. Did you at least turn it off? Communication is absolutely key.

Best wishes.

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