Published Apr 7, 2017
YourFavoriteMurse
1 Post
Hello everyone!
I am a 25-year-old registered nurse with my BSN and I have decided to go back to school this coming fall. I have the programs that I am interested in narrowed down but I have some questions about them that I have not been able to get answered by the university. I basically want to know which type of job I will be qualified for if I get each degree and what the job market is like. Below I will list my degree options, any information at all is much appreciated!
1.) MSN in Nursing Leadership with Executive concentration (Accelerated PhD option available.)
2.) Doctorate of Nursing Practice (While also having obtained the degree listed above.)
3.) MSN / MSM dual degree - Masters of Science in Nursing + Masters of Science in Management with Healthcare Administration focus (Dual degree program in which I would receive both degrees at the same time.)
These are my 3 options at the moment. Again, I am just looking for some detailed post-graduate information in terms of where I could go with each degree. Also, any salary information is much appreciated.
Thanks for reading and I hope to hear back soon!
- YFM
Tacomaboy3
147 Posts
If the DNP program is a nurse leadership program and NOT an APRN program, I would think all three options would prepare you for the same type of management role (albeit, the PhD would open up research and academic roles). In most situations, I dont think multiple graduate degrees in the same nursing leadership concentration would offer you more earning potential or career-ladder potential than just one.
nutella, MSN, RN
1 Article; 1,509 Posts
All three of them are leadership including the DNP (not NP role) ?
If that is the case, personally I would choose the MSN option with the concentration because even if you decide on stopping after that degree you have a MSN.
I do not think that a MSM degree is really that great and do not see the value of having a MSN /MSM because you will pay probably much more but I think the value is questionable.MSM folks tend to gravitate towards nursing homes , offices.
The main thing to consider is that for most leadership roles you need some solid work experience in your field and need to develop leadership skills concurrently while you are working. The degree itself will provide you with some knowledge but becoming a leader is more than the degree.
llg, PhD, RN
13,469 Posts
So ... am I right in assuming that you are interested in a career in Nursing Administration? If not, you need to start your search for a school over again because those degrees are all meant to prepare you for a job as a nurse manager/adminstrator. As a previous poster has said, the route to getting the best management/administration jobs is to have the combination of both graduate education in that field and also work experience that demonstrates increasing responsibility as you "climb the career ladder" in that specialty.
From your original post, I take it that you do not yet have work experience in the specialty of nursing managment/administration. That's OK, but you need to take that into consideration as you plan your career. You will be getting graduate education prior to getting practical experience in the field -- and as far as jobs go, you'll need to start near the bottom of the ladder before you will be considered a strong candidate for upper level positions no matter which academic degree you choose.
So ... the choice becomes a matter of "How much do you want to invest right now in a field in which you have no experience and cannot know for sure whether you will like it and/or be good at it?" My own experience as a young nurse was that I started grad school at the age of 24, majoring in Nursing Administration, thinking I wanted a career in that specialty. As I took a few classes in the specialty and interacted with my classmates (mostly experienced managers), I realized it was not the right specialty for me. I realized I was more interested in Staff Development and Project Management than budgets, supply management, staff management, etc. So I changed my major, picked up some Nursing Education classes, and have had a successful career in Nursing Professional Development (after spending some time as a CNS).
What happened to me might not happen to you. You might discover that you love the job responsibilities of management/administration and are really great at it. But now, you going in kind'a blind.
So ... do you want to make a huge investment in a graduate education in leadership now? ... or do you want to start off a little slower and see if you like it before investing more? That would be a good way to think about.
The straight MSN in leadership would probably require the least investment to begin with. You could add a DNP or PhD later if you want, depending on the long-term plans you develop as you learn more about the field and find your niche within it. The PhD would add academic options, but require more of an investment than a DNP that would focus more on the practice of nursing administration than the study of it.
The MSN/MSM would offer a broader foundation and would probably be worth it if you are interested in positions with a scope of influence broader than just nursing units.
If it were me, I would also strongly consider the quality of the programs/schools involved. If there is a quality difference, I would eliminate any programs that were not considered "high quality education." Your educational credentials are too important to waste money on poor quality.
Good luck with whatever you decide.