Published Nov 10, 2023
Guest997980
12 Posts
I was curious what you all think about the students that are allowed to enter Delta College ADN nursing program in Stockton, CA without going through the application point system because they work at local hospitals like San Joaquin General Hospital, Lodi Memorial, or St. Joseph's Medical Center. The program is called Help Our People Elevate. The students work for the hospital under different roles but not as nurses- usually clerks, transporters, assistants, kitchen staff, or phlebotomists. I noticed they are letting people join the local ADN nursing program at Delta College if they work at these nearby hospital and have completed the prerequisites but did not do very well in the prerequisite classes. I noticed no other community colleges are doing this & wondering if you all think this is fair? Part of the program is trying to address nursing shortage but doesn't that lower the quality of the profession and bend the rules?
user123476
9 Posts
The HOPE program still has GPA and TEAS requirement same as delta that you need to even be eligible to apply. I don't think it's unfair It's allowing more ppl into the program who otherwise wouldn't have been bad. It's ppl who have worked in the hospital for a while and are reliable and usually its ED techs and CNAs they take in.
Queen_RN89
1 Post
I heard of that program. It is very unfair! Students that have earned good grades and actually follow the Delta College point system should only be allowed a spot. The criteria for the HOPE program is very unclear for the TEAS and GPA. There was an ED tech at Dameron who told me all you need is a TEAS score of 65 or higher and as long as she gets a C or higher in her science courses she gets a spot in the HOPE program allowing her in the Delta College RN program. She also said once she gets in the HOPE program and gets here RN license she is moving to a different state anyways. The HOPE program is encouraging bad grades and does not help with retention of nurses. If someone has bad grades you should not be allowed a spot in the program. No other community college has HOPE programs like that with community hospitals. That's probably why Delta College's NCLEX pass rates have been falling. They need to stop with these hush hush programs and should use the program funds for renovating these old hospitals.
Yes but the HOPE program isn't hurting prospective nursing students who have good grades
Like she said, no other community college has this program
So if we get rid of HOPE program , all we get is less nursing students overall. If the HOPE program didn't exist then Delta can only accept 40ish kids per semester which makes it even harder to get in.
And the HOPE program doesn't necessarily mean it's bad ppl as students. Sure it allows students with "bad" grades to have a chance to get into nursing school but that's overall a good thing bc it lets ppl get a second chance. The students accepted aren't unreliable either, manager recommendations matter a lot which helps the candidates credibility.
As for ppl who go thru HOPE and leave to another state, it's not an overall bad thing. It still allows for extra nurses to be had especially during the current nursing shortage. The HOPE program existing does not infringe on the actual delta ADN program.Also some ppl might prefer going thru HOPE over ADN as it allows ppl to finish faster and essentially guarantees a job after graduation. You can't take the situation of one person (the one who leaves to another state) and claim it applies for everyone. And the HOPE program doesn't encourage bad grades. It encourages people who work in the community to be able to further their education and degrees
There's also hundreds of students applying for the HOPE program applying and meeting the minimum requirements does not guarantee you a spot.