Yale GEPN Fall 2010 - page 19
Okay, I know it's early, but Yale is my first choice, and I'm already terrified that I'm going to screw it up. My goal is New England (although I'm also applying to Pace because they have this... Read More
Feb 21, '10Specialty: 4 year(s) of experience ; Joined: Apr '09; Posts: 20; Likes: 8I got accepted to Acute Care! I'm still looking at Miami & NYU though. Miami because it's cheaper and NYU because it's in NYC. (I currently live in NYC). I really don't know if I could call New Haven home for 3 years, there was really nothing about the area I found appealing. Unless I receive a sizeable financial aid package from Yale, I highly doubt I will consider it.
Feb 21, '10Joined: Dec '08; Posts: 38; Likes: 19Chender, thanks for the info about Yale! It's a good point that the BSN from Penn might be useful, since I can imagine wanting to take time as an RN, either during or after the program. The Yale staff have been super nice and helpful, but I think it will come down to flexibility and $ for me.
Lunchbox and eazye - I am not looking at UVM, but I have lived in the Burlington area before. So if you have questions just about the city and lifestyle I can answer those. It's definitely more rural and much less diverse than New Haven. You'd more be treating folks who are underserved due to location rather than $ and other factors.
Feb 21, '10Specialty: Future CNM ; From: US ; Joined: Sep '09; Posts: 60; Likes: 1eazye,
Congrats on both schools! From and outside perspective it seems like what it boils down to is which specialty you are more interested in? FNP or CNM? From the Yale acceptance letter it doesn't seem like you can switch specialties? Good luck!
Feb 21, '10Joined: Aug '09; Posts: 7eazye: I feel like I know much more about Yale as well, and you're right, it's hard to feel too decisive without having any of the financial aid information. I know much more about Yale's program (historically and in the present time) than I do about VT. It seems like I've had to dig to get any info and the administration is not exactly prompt w/responding.
As far as setting (urban vs. rural)- I am flexible. VT has a beautiful rural campus, but I hear that Burlington is also bustling, so you can opt for a more urban experience from time to time? I am born and bred on east coast, so neither location is very different from what I am used to.
I was also stunned by the size of the cohort accepted at UVM. Most of what I've learned about the program has been from this website and I am thankful for that.
Feb 22, '10Joined: Feb '09; Posts: 29; Likes: 3I'm a current GEPN that decided to come see what's going on here (after one of you emailed me with questions)...I really have to tell you to not base your decision on Yale's financial aid. It's pretty much non-existent. Do not get your hopes up! I think the largest package anyone got was around $8,000 (words from the mouth of the financial aid direct to my friend who got that grant). I remember being incredibly disappointed and upset when I got my financial aid letter, so I don't want you to go through that. It's going to be miniscule. Accept it. You choose Yale for other reasons. I will say, however, despite the cost of school, New Haven is an affordable city to live in, unlike NYC (Columbia gives you lots of money, but it still would have ended up being significantly more expensive than Yale because their estimated living expenses don't afford you enough to be able to live in NYC...) My husband and I live with another couple, splitting a 3 bedroom apartment, which is huge, and we pay $750/month. And New Haven is also quite great--and this is coming from a Southern Californian, who expected to not like it so much...You can walk/bike everywhere, there are beautiful parks, it's close to some great beaches, great farmer's markets (when the weather permits), hiking, and all the opportunities that being at Yale has to offer...I am happy I made the decision I did...
Try not to stress too much about your decision...I was a wreck last year...It'll all work out, and in a month, the decision will be made.
Feb 22, '10Occupation: Birth Doula and Midwife's Assistant Joined: Dec '09; Posts: 18Biddy,
Thanks for your insight! I am definitely leaning towards Yale (midwifery) and like everyone else, scared about the finances of it all. I think we should receive our financial aid packages soon, but like you said, i am not expecting anything grand. Do most YSN students pay for rent and living expenses with private loans? Do you think Yale's estimate of how much you need for the school year is accurate? Also, is it necessary to have a car? Sorry for the million questions, just trying to get a clear picture of it all!
You are right, everything will be settled soon enough
Feb 22, '10Specialty: Future CNM ; From: US ; Joined: Sep '09; Posts: 60; Likes: 1Lucy, I think I can answer one of your questions. The two professors who did my Midwifery session said you definitely need a dependable car. Placements can be up to an hour away. Biddy, is this true?
And, I'm leaning towards Yale too! I am still going to the Columbia day so see you there.Last edit by ooooladoula on Feb 22, '10
Feb 22, '10Joined: Feb '09; Posts: 29; Likes: 3I do think the estimate is enough money, but I am married and we had savings when we moved here. I know some other friends have thought they could use a bit more, but honestly, New Haven is not a super expensive city. I think it's quite affordable (I did, however, spend ten years in Los Angeles, so perhaps my perspective is skewed...) There are many of us that pay with loans - I took out the Grad Plus loans (federal) to cover what Stafford did not. They do tell you that you don't need a car for the first year, but really, I think it's best to buy one as soon as you can. You will definitely need one during the specialty years, and it's not like you are going to suddenly be making more money once you're a student! We have now had three clinical rotations, and only one of mine has been in New Haven. I happily drive students without cars, but they are all now thinking about how they are going to purchase cars for next year when you will be alone at clinical sites. So while you may not need a car for GEPN, you will need one in the years to come.
Feb 22, '10Occupation: Birth Doula and Midwife's Assistant Joined: Dec '09; Posts: 18Thanks Oooladoula and Biddy for this good information. I live in NYC and don't have a car, so I will have to get on that! I am pretty sure now that I am New Haven-bound I am starting to feel good about the decision.
Oooladoula, I am going to try and pm you with my email b/c I would like to try and meet up at the Columbia revisit and chat. (Not sure how to pick you out from the crowd, as I only know your screen-name!) Not quite sure how to send a pm, but hopefully you will get it!
Feb 23, '10Joined: Feb '10; Posts: 8Hello Biddy/any other YSN students,
Can you tell me a little more about what it is like to live in New Haven? I would also be moving with my fiance, and I am worried about him being able to find a job there. I have also heard some negative things about the city in general.
We were told that the average distance we would need to travel for clinicals is about 60min each way. Is that really true? You mentioned that one can get by without a car during the first year though?? Is it just twice per week or so that we would have to be doing all of that traveling, and does that mean that some of the sites are over an hour away?
Does anybody work during the two specialty years or do most students study full time without part-time jobs? Lastly, how do you think the coursework at Yale compares to some of the other direct entry programs?
Those are all of my questions for now. Thanks so much!!
Feb 23, '10Joined: Dec '09; Posts: 36Ya, that would be great to know more about the GEPN program! I'm having the HARDEST time trying to choose between Hopkins and Yale. AHHH...Anyone else having trouble trying to choose?
Feb 24, '10Joined: Feb '09; Posts: 29; Likes: 3New Haven: I'd heard horrible things about the city prior to moving here. I had incredibly low expectations, so perhaps that's why I was so pleasantly surprised. New Haven is awesome! I'm a southern Californian (to let you know my perspective). The city is very walkable...it's small - you can really walk everywhere (you should definitely invest in a bike if you don't have on). There are lots of great restaurants, bars, etc. If you like Italian food, oh yes, the city is amazing for that. I live in East Rock, which is a really cute neighborhood of old victorian homes, churches (I'm not religious, but they are quite pretty), and there's a huge park (east rock park) at the end my street. The park is great for walking, running, etc. There's a really nice trail along the river there. You can also hike up to the top of East Rock, which has great views of New Haven. I have 3 markets within walking distance, two of them specializing in Italian food (oh yes! AMAZING!) I'm not going to lie about the difficulty of potentially finding a job for a mate (but in this economy, that's probably true anywhere you'd be considering). My husband had a film background and worked in Hollywood exclusively since graduating. It doesn't translate here. He's just completed EMT training and is starting paramedic school in May/June. I have another friend in the program, whose fiance just found a job. If you can, you and your fiance should save up money before you move out here to get through while he looks (and I suppose, too, the ease with which he can find a job will depend on his skill set...You can also take the train into NYC - it's 1.5 hours each way...Or with a car, you can drive to Hartford in 45 minutes...)
In terms of average driving distance to clinicals, the 60 miles round trip might not quite be true for GEPN year, but I think it becomes true during the specialty years. I've now had 3 rotations, and only one of them was at Yale New Haven Hospital. My first one was a 30 minute drive away. My last one was 55 minutes. They will always do groups during GEPN so that there are cars among the members - I've driven classmates that don't have cars (of course, everybody carpools). However, you will absolutely need a car during the specialty years because you are assigned alone to sites. So you can worry about buying a car now (when you are likely to have more money than you will once you are a student), but many people are waiting and will be scrambling this summer to find cars...I will say, too, that I've actually kind of enjoyed the commutes to clinical. You really get to know your classmates when you are in the car for an hour together...I would not complain about that at all.
People do work during the specialty year, but the schedule is pretty packed so it's on a very part-time basis (one or two shifts per week would be my guess). I really can't say how the coursework compares here vs. other direct entry programs because I haven't attended classes at other schools...If you have a more specific question about academics here, I will try and answer that, but I can't even begin to try and offer a comparison...
I was also trying to choose between Yale and Hopkins. I would say if you have not visited Baltimore, you have to do that before you can make a decision. I went out there last year for accepted students day, and I knew right away that I did not want to live in Baltimore. It also was going to cost more money because as an adult doing a second BSN, the financial aid is really bad (half as much in stafford loans, and there's not the option of the grad plus loan...I would have had to take out private loans, requiring a cosigner and I did not feel comfortable doing that...) JHU also gave me exactly the same amount of money as Yale did (don't get your hopes up about financial aid! In most cases, it won't help you make a decision... Nursing schools don't seem to have much to go around...)
I'll try to answer any other questions you might have...
Feb 24, '10Joined: Oct '08; Posts: 3Hi Biddy,
I am deciding between Yale and U Penn? Do you mind pm me and share some insights?