Can an ADN nurse move into supervisory positions with only 4 years experience?

[NenaRK]

I know a nurse who graduated with her ADN in 2007. She works in the ICU and has been the "charge nurse" for sometime.( I am still taking my prerequisites for Nursing, so I'm not completely sure what all the different titles for different nurses are. )

Anyways, apparently she got promoted to an even higher supervisory position, I think she is now the head nurse of the ICU as opposed to just the leader of her shift (although she didn't specify what the position was).

Also, I was reading a thread on here, and another woman said that after 5 months of working as an RN(also ADN educated) she moved into a supervisory position.

I was wondering, is this common? I hear so many saying "if you want to move up the career ladder in Nursing you should have a BSN." but this woman has a ADN and has apparently become Miss Boss Lady.

Thanks!:)

[nurseprnRN, BSN, RN]

let's put it this way. i've read a lot of charting by charge nurses and supervisors who have associate degrees, and a few depositions. they might have the job but that doesn't make them best qualified.

[Juwon]

Depends on the facility. I know for a fact that ADN nurses can take charge of the floor. I Personally know of nurses with a few months of experience out of school functioning as the charge nurse on their floor. As for the DON position, I always seen and was told that the candidate must have at least a BSN with 5 years of clincial experience to qualify, but a MSN is HIGHLY preferred

[roser13, ASN, RN]

let's put it this way. i've read a lot of charting by charge nurses and supervisors who have associate degrees, and a few depositions. they might have the job but that doesn't make them best qualified.

:lol2:i was just about to make an identical post only using "bachelors degrees" instead of "associate degrees.":lol2:

just shows to go you - it's not always the degree, sometimes it's the nurse. so, yes, of course, asn nurses can shine in supervisory positions.

[SuperStarRN]

Being "in charge" isn't just about your education level. Sometimes an employer can see leadership qualities in a person from the start. The managing part is the learned part that you gain from experience. With the right training, education, and inherent leadership skills ASN vs BSN doesn't make that much of a difference. Who says that a BSN nurse charts any better? It depends on the person.

[virgo,student nurse, CNA]

I know in the private sector you can move up quickly, but it seems at the state level it takes some time and education for desk leadership jobs.

[leslie :-D]

absolutely, an adn can be qualified as supervisory.

the degree is only part of the consideration.

if i worked with an experienced, intelligent, resourceful nurse w/initiative & leadership skills, i'd hire him/her in a minute...not even knowing what type of degree they had...or if they even had a degree.

don't misunderstand.

there are facilities that'll hire anyone with the preferred degree, regardless if they're qualified or not.

they just want the body and the degree.

but a talented nurse can indeed go far.

the degree is the icing.

leslie

[linearthinker, DNP, RN]

It depends on a million and one confounding factors. Short answer, yes. I was the manager of 34 ICU beds and 125+ RNs with an ADN 20 years ago, when I had been a nurse for 5 years. I look back now and think holy cow, what was I/were they thinking?!?!?! I already had a masters and a law degree at the time, but that wasn't why they gave me the job. They said they thought I had leadership ability. The BSN was required, and they gave me a time frame within which to finish it. Would they do that now? I don't know. I doubt it. Some places still do. A lot depends on who is available to do the job. Most depends on who you know. I "knew people," (the right people ) they believed in me, I got the job.

[netglow, ASN, RN]

Yeah that Lineart!

Remember many, many, many ADNs have other advanced degrees and are management coming into the nursing game. They do pay their dues in nursing, and can manage extremely well should they choose to take that on. Nursing needs them, oh boy does nursing need them.

[tokmom, BSN, RN]

let's put it this way. i've read a lot of charting by charge nurses and supervisors who have associate degrees, and a few depositions. they might have the job but that doesn't make them best qualified.

oh pull-eez! really? i have no clue what my co workers are, but some of their charting sucks! god help them if they are ever in a deposition. mine is good. i have had mine used as an example on how to chart.

op, yes adn can move up in managment. i have seen it in state and private sector.

just the other day i was offered an anm job on my current floor. when i turned it down, my nm (who has an msn) was disappointed, as was the dns (msn). they passed up bsn applicants to ask me. why? because i work hard, i know what i'm doing on the floor. i can hold my own in meetings and i'm professional. that doesn't take a bsn. anyone can lead if they have the attributes.

for me managment isn't my thing. i prefer touching people, starting iv's and giving hugs to cute old people. i can do that as a cn.

[CapeCodMermaid, RN]

let's put it this way. i've read a lot of charting by charge nurses and supervisors who have associate degrees, and a few depositions. they might have the job but that doesn't make them best qualified.

that's really quite insulting.

[xtxrn, ASN, RN]

I worked in Austin, Round Rock, and Kerrville, TX.... in mostly (as in 13-14 of 17 years) charge, supervisory, and "administrative" (MDS/Care Plan) positions. I have the horrible ADN

This discussion (not aimed at the OP) is SO dependent on the location in the country, rural vs urban, type of facility, etc. AND, the experience and common sense of the applicant. An alphabet at the end of ones' name means nothing re: their ability to use the info they paid to get. :)

And anybody, regardless of degree can be a total jackwagon as a nurse. Lots of worthless PhD, MSN, and BSNs out there with the worthless ADNs

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