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Are handguns allowed at work?

I witnessed a nurse employed at our hospital showing a handgun she keeps in her locker to several reps Who were visiting in our department.

I am a little concerned and was wondering what the policy is on guns inside the hospital facility in the state of Mississippi. Can anyone advise me on what to do?

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For those of you that state they carry regardless of signage prohibiting it: how would you respond if someone carried on your property after you requested them not to?

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Well, if I suppose you were asking if you could carry your gun to an interview, you might've gotten more replies! ;)

Lol so true! Maybe should have thrown it in there amongst the mix!

I work on Federal property, and they really don't care about anyone's State-issued gun carry permit.

Yep, there's a sign, and the sign in FRONT of the Federal building says it all: No weaponry, no knives, no guns allowed on these premises".

Do people still bring in concealed weapons? I imagine so....but not legally.

The last Federal building I went into I couldn't even bring in my purse or cell phone. They checked me at the door I was only allowed my ID, a form of payment, and my paperwork. They would not let me in otherwise. I would hope them turning me away for a purse and cell phone that their metal detector I had to walk through catches guns. :)

I have a CCP. I don't carry it to work though. Personally, I'm just not comfortable with that.

Speaking to the OP... well, yes I would report what was described anon. Not at all based on how much I did or did not like them. But entirely based on what I assume by description must be an explosive temper. That would make me nervous.

People who are concerned for their safety will either carry a handgun that's concealed, or something else. I worked with a few ladies over the years that shared with me they carried a taser in their purse for example. My question would be why they are 'showing off' to begin with. That's a red flag in my mind if there ever was one.

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For those of you that state they carry regardless of signage prohibiting it: how would you respond if someone carried on your property after you requested them not to?

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This is the exact reason my uncle has been banned from my house, all of my siblings' houses, and my parents' house. There are young children to worry about, and let's just say he isn't the most careful of concealed weapons carriers.

My facility also bans weapons of any kind; the only allowable exception is a small canister of pepper spray, and it is not to be in patient care areas. Security will walk anyone to their car who asks, although our parking garage goes into lockdown from 8 pm to 5 am and there is a covered walkway from the facility to the garage. Concealed carry in a hospital seems like asking for too much trouble- violating facility policy, possibly violating the law depending on where you live, and the possibility of the weapon ending up in either malicious or careless hands.

The last Federal building I went into I couldn't even bring in my purse or cell phone. They checked me at the door I was only allowed my ID, a form of payment, and my paperwork. They would not let me in otherwise. I would hope them turning me away for a purse and cell phone that their metal detector I had to walk through catches guns. :)

I WISH my facility had this set up, but they don't. I was surprised, actually, but.....they don't. I was, however, given a class on how to respond if/when a shooter is in the building.... :(

No cell phone.no weaponry on our persons while on duty. This thread made me LOL! The bodies would have covered the floor today if I was armed.....

and let's just say he isn't the most careful of concealed weapons carriers.

In my state, which is a pretty anti-gun control state, the state (or the county or whomever is responsible for such things) asks for references before giving you a permit to carry a concealed weapon. However, that is usually just window dressing. If the person doesn't have a record the give them a permit. I don't worry so much about what that person does with their weapon, but more so what they don't do (i.e. protect it and keep it locked from minors, etc.); and I worry about what that individual who takes the weapon will do with it.

I feel like if the nurse is so bold to show it off, then that is a huge red flag. A concealed weapon is just that concealed.

In February 2011, I was doing a clinical rotation at my hospital in L/D. It was icy that day. We could hear the icy hitting the windows. We heard several "pops" coming from the floor above was. We all thought it was the hospital tube system that transports meds and labs. It was a prsioner who was there for whatever reason. He was able to get a gun from the prison officer standing guard at his doorway. He shot 3 rounds into a brand spanking new Hill Rom bed. That was the most action that med surg floor saw in a long time. Very scary for those poor nurses. No one was hurt thank the Lord.

Nibbles 1, your experience is precisely why the "good guy with a gun" argument does not hold up. It's just not safe to have a gun in the hospital setting...Here in the hills of east Tennessee, guns are everywhere, people think they must defend themselves from...who knows what? Each other? And when the poker game goes downhill...and the liquor is flowing...and tempers ignite... The gun that was only supposed to be used to defend oneself is drawn...I agree with Fiona. I myself would never bring a gun into my home; I have curious children that get into everything. In my nursing career I have seen so many gun tragedies that should never have happened. Definitely not appropriate for a hospital employee to be showing off her gun!

I know that it is useless in the car. But why would you bring it in a hospital? Not a place for a weapon. You have security there and if you are nervous walking out to your car, have them walk you out. I have plenty of times. I am all for gun rights don't get me wrong, but not at a medical facility inside.

because a gun man will hold fire until cop shows up... sweet.

because a gun man will hold fire until cop shows up... sweet.

Said no one, ever haha.

I've seen someone pull a weapon while on duty/on the floor to demand to be seen immediately. I've seen a patient pull a weapon to demand space. I've seen a patient pull a weapon because they didn't care for a particular staff member caring for them. I've even seen two guys pull weapons out and try to rob my old ED of it's schedule 2's. Thankfully, these are all situations that we have had protocols to deal with. Meaning they can be resolved with minimal or no violence (usually a takedown). I've been either the initiator, or participant in these situations when they occurred. I still have a ton of faith in the protocols, because I've seen them work. If I happened by some cosmic alteration to be armed when any of those situations happened, I'd still default to the protocols. Said weapon would not leave it's holster.

What I haven't seen is someone with actual intent on causing as much loss of life as is possible show up at an ED. And I wouldn't want to. Because protocols and negotiations are lost causes judging by viewing/reading occurrences in other settings.

Honestly, I don't know what I would do in a situation like that. Because I've never had the misfortune of dealing with it. I'd venture though that our hospitals are poor targets for that kind of shooter. Local PD responds with blinding speed when we have needed them as they are usually in the building anyway. My guess is that a person doing that would want an environment where they would encounter the least resistance. And an ED with officer so and so hanging out and hobnobbing with the staff just isn't it.

One could call me out of being hypocritical however. Because I'm not adamantly against the concept. I remember when my old hospital nixed the smoking patio and instituted a smoke free campus. We had 3 rapes, and two attempted that year. The staff were having to go and stand out on the street in the night to smoke. Oftentimes alone initially. That scared the bejesus out of me. We solved part of that issue by setting up groups to travel to and from a smoke break together. But after going through that at my workplace, and watching the practical (*shrug* guess they shouldn't have been smokers) apathy of administration - yes, I was all for my co workers having something to protect themselves.

Really I just think that anyone that's reasonably minded, sane, and level headed wouldn't let it be known that they have a weapon for self protection to begin with. But any situation involving a weapon I've witnessed in my career so far - they were all able to be handled by protocol and negotiation. Or a takedown if that was not working. They didn't actually want to shoot/stab/injure/kill the staff. They wanted attention. And they got it. Sad but true in my observations insofar.

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