Frustrations of an older student

Nursing Students Pre-Nursing

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I know this post will cause a lot of controversy but I am writing it for those of us who are older adults struggling to earn a spot in a program. The program I am applying for has changed its policies to be an unbelievable contradiction to itself.

I was a first time college student 30 years ago when I was 18. I was immature and irresponsible and did poorly in school for three semesters which obviously and deservedly lowered my GPA. In 1992, I went back and over the years took a class here and there as I could between children and jobs. I earned A's in every one with the goal being to earn my nursing degree when my children were grown.

This past year when my youngest turned 16 I decided it was time for me to finish up and apply to the program. I was encouraged and pursued by the local community college. I was initially denied admission once because my math skills were thirty years old and my compass score stunk and they had just raised the score needed to be accepted. (since then they have lowered it back to it's original number) Yes that was frustrating but I stunk at math and that's an important skill and my own fault so I relearned some of it on my own then retook the compass.

I was admitted and then took an intermediate and college level algebra with and A and a B. I retook the science courses I had already taken previously with A's because they were too old to be counted being six years old instead of five. I raised my Regents GPA to a 3.81. I took the PAX and earned a 97.

As of this semester, I am finished with all of my pre-reqs and ready to apply. However, this week I was told by my advisor that my ranking score will be based not upon my Regents GPA by on my Hope GPA which is cumulative of all college courses taken in my life. This will include the courses from 30 years ago that have been retaken and in which I earned A's.

Let me get this straight, my ACT which was excellent and my A's in science courses taken six years ago are too old to be counted but my bad grades in theater and history which have been retaken are fair game??

Before anyone here blasts me for whining, hear me out. I am a parent. I tell my kids there are repercussions in life for everything you do. That is true. But when you pick and choose what is too old and what is not and when straight A's for the past years are not enough and your efforts at jumping through all the academic hoops are never enough that is not right.

None of my multiple letters of recommendation from my professors will be considered nor my prior health care employment. At this point, going to take both the ACT and SAT again and hope I do as well as I did before. I cannot do anything about my GPA unless I continue to pay for classes that I do not need. Funny thing I am being ranked by the Hope scholarship GPA but will never be eligible because I am from out of state. I still don't know how my ACT is too old to be a judge of my academic performance as I was told but my grades when I was 18 are not.

As for my GPA, my Regents GPA of 3.81 will be tossed aside in favor of my Hope GPA of 2.83. Having said all of this, I have two words of advice. When they say it is on your permanent record IT WILL BE so don't screw up when you are young.

If you are my age, make sure you read all the fine print and find a school that will take into account your circumstances as an older student and work with you, not against you. If this makes you mad, please don't give me a lecture. I'm writing it for those of us who are struggling against the systems that are contradictory and who are frustrated with our best efforts not being enough.

Your description of Australia's open policy for nursing school is an eye-opener. We in the US are always so certain we have it better than any other country. Makes me wonder how we compare with other countries besides Australia in educational opportunities. For sure our schools are pricing lots of people out or forcing them into debt. We're all looking for jobs with good futures, so when we hear of shortages in a profession we jump in en-masse until there's an overabundance.

There must be a better way.... ? Anyway, good luck to the older students, those with families, and those with financial challenges. In the words of Winston Churchill facing the threat of Nazi Germany (I think): "Never, never, never give up!"

I'm worried about this too. I'm 26 and have a previous degree in which I earned a 2.99 upon graduating. I also simply was immature for parts of school the first time around. I just started taking prereqs for nursing and plan on doing all I can to get straight As (successful so far) but I'm not sure that it'll be enough. I haven't looked into my school's requirements in detail yet but do plan on applying to more than one school once I have my prereqs done. I agree it's quite the double standard to consider good things too old to count but not the bad.

I understand how you feel. My CC however, gives a ONE time academic renewal. If you screw up when u are young, you get one chance to get those classes taken out of you GPA. I'm 42 and earned an F in a computer class 20 years ago. I couldn't retake it because they no longer offer that particular class. I had to prove that I was serious this time, and now they don't figure it into my GPA. It does still show up on my transcript though. Don't let it deter you. If they look at everything objectively, perhaps they will take everything into consideration. Good luck![/quote']

I had to end up retaking about 8 classes total that I received a C or below in. I received an F in a math class but they no longer have that class & I already used up a grade forgiveness on another class so I'm stuck with that F. I have a 3.479 overall but if that F wasn't there, I'd have a 3.69. See the crazy difference? I wish I could warn everyone out there to take classes seriously directly out of HS but everyone makes mistakes and you learn from them.

Every school is definitely different, because our schools here in Northern Ohio don't require an ACT score to apply unless you're out of HS. If you're a transfer student from any other college, they only look at GPA and don't require ACT. I still took it in high school since it was required but I'm glad it's not needed.

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