Nursing Program @Grand Canyon University - page 11

Anyone know if the GCU nursing program is ok? Good teachers? Accredited? I know it's expensive and they were financially strapped as of Jan '04, but supposedly that's behind them.... Read More

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    Quote from nicolemsm
    Hey Multicollinearity, Did you attend ASU, UofA, or NAU? I'm planning on attending ASU (if I'm competitive enough lol)!

    I'll never tell!!! Muuhaahaa!!! I like my anonymity.

    Good luck, nicolemsm. As long as you maintain an excellent GPA and have a plan B, I bet you'll be just fine.

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    Quote from multicollinearity
    I'll never tell!!! Muuhaahaa!!! I like my anonymity.

    Good luck, nicolemsm. As long as you maintain an excellent GPA and have a plan B, I bet you'll be just fine.
    hahaha okay! I see how it is!!!!
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    University Ranking from US News and World Report

    For reference, Harvard is ranked TIER ONE, number one (the very best). Universities are ranked from tier one (best) to tier four, and some are not ranked at all.

    University of Arizona is ranked TIER ONE, number 96:

    http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandre...ege/items/1083

    Arizona State University is ranked TIER ONE, number 121:

    http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandre...ege/items/1081

    Northern Arizona University is ranked TIER FOUR:

    http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandre...ege/items/1082

    Grand Canyon University is not even ranked:

    http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandre...ege/items/1074

    Personally, I don't care too much about these rankings. I know that an excellent education can occur in small, little-known places. But these rankings are relevant when someone claims GCU is so elite, "the best" etc., here in AZ.
    Last edit by Multicollinearity on Jul 5, '09
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    Quote from multicollinearity
    University Ranking from US News and World Report

    For reference, Harvard is ranked TIER ONE, number one (the very best). Universities are ranked from tier one (best) to tier four, and some are not ranked at all.

    University of Arizona is ranked TIER ONE, number 96:

    http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandre...ege/items/1083

    Arizona State University is ranked TIER ONE, number 121:

    http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandre...ege/items/1081

    Northern Arizona University is ranked TIER FOUR:

    http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandre...ege/items/1082

    Grand Canyon University is not even ranked:

    http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandre...ege/items/1074

    Personally, I don't care too much about these rankings. I know that an excellent education can occur in small, little-known places. But these rankings are relevant when someone claims GCU is so elite, "the best" etc., here in AZ.
    GCU is a private school. Not a state school. Try to rank it under private school. Wow!!
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    wow, so many things to catch up with.

    1. I am not a GCU sale staff (or representative). I have graduated there in nursing.

    2. CardiacRN2006... you can laugh as much as you want but I just felt that your previous posts (ever since 2006) showed so much bitter toward this school. I haven't looked at your replies to other schools but maybe that's just your personality....

    3. Multicollinearity... Well, like I said before.. everybody has pride in their nursing schools so please don't take it in negative ways. Also, the link that you put about the ranks of school.. I am sure you know this but the ranks will vary depends on which program/schools you look at. Example, U of A's business school maybe top in the state but ASU may have better Psychology program.. etc, etc. So, if you find the rank of nursing programs.. please share :-)

    4. My purpose of this post is that all the readers should know both sides when they open this link. I just felt like I needed to verify some statements that were made here.

    Thanks! =) Go 'Lopes!!!
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    Quote from MTTMPE
    GCU is a private school. Not a state school. Try to rank it under private school. Wow!!
    The US News and World Report rankings I referenced includes private schools. The number one university in this list is a private school. GCU (undergrad, university as a whole) just isn't ranked at all.
    Last edit by Multicollinearity on Jul 6, '09
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    I found rankings for graduate school nursing programs:

    http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsa...hools/rankings

    State specific:

    http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsa...kings/state+AZ

    The University of Arizona is scores at 26 in the nation. Grand Canyon University comes in near the end at 250.
    Last edit by Multicollinearity on Jul 6, '09
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    Quote from jennysummerbee
    3. Multicollinearity... Well, like I said before.. everybody has pride in their nursing schools so please don't take it in negative ways. Also, the link that you put about the ranks of school.. I am sure you know this but the ranks will vary depends on which program/schools you look at. Example, U of A's business school maybe top in the state but ASU may have better Psychology program.. etc, etc. So, if you find the rank of nursing programs.. please share :-)
    I'm not finding undergrad program rankings. I could only find university-as-a-whole rankings for undergrad and graduate school program rankings. At this point, though, I'm tired of all the ranking business.

    It's great to have pride in your college or university. It's quite another thing to post that your program is "the best in the state" when evidence shows it is not. (Another member posted this, not you.)

    We can't all be #1. To boot, the poster said GCU new grads will get jobs over grads from some other programs. That statement deserved to be refuted and refuted strongly.
    Last edit by Multicollinearity on Jul 6, '09
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    Quote from multicollinearity
    As I said before, GCU is a perfectly respectable school. Some of us here on the board were addressing some of the absurd statements like it's the best nursing program in the state and that a BSN is always > than an ADN. GCU is the best program in the state only in the same way Liberty University is "better" than Yale.

    Why do I get the impression that some GCU sales staff (aka representatives) are here, and not nursing students?

    Ya know... It's sure funny that you say that. Before being accepted into nursing school I worked at a local consumer loan finance company for the past 8 years. MANY of my former coworkers have taken recruiting positions at GCU when layoffs and closings of our branches occurred over the past year. If you don't have "sales" experience, applicants need not apply for a recruiting position at GCU. NONE of my former coworkers have any enrollment or advisement experience other than being the student themselves.

    Now, on the other hand - there have been at least 3 people I've known that attended & graduated from GCU with their BSN. One was way back in 2000 before the changes that were made. All 3 are successful nurses in their own right because they made it happen. Put a crappy student at a good school and their probability of success is miniscule. Place a great, hard working student at a below average school and they just might succeed - but it is solely up to the student doing the work.

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion about which school is better (aka a peeing contest) but I personally like that everyone on these boards has a different opinion. Anything that I don't agree with, I take with a grain of salt and move on to a post that I DO agree with.

    What's that saying "Share our similarities, celebrate our differences"?
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    Jennysummerbee,

    I work at St Joes and have found excellent and prepared students coming from both ASU and GCU. We have a lot of adjunct faculty that work between GCU and St Joes and think that might have something to do with it. I don't know how the rankings are determined but think that perhaps that those who are determining the ranking may be influenced by the fact that GCU has religious affiliation. Like you said I take it with a grain of salt. And when it comes down to it I have never seen a hiring manager decide on a person based on the school they attended. Do you have a license is a much greater determination as well as having a BSN. My manager seems proud of the fact of the high ratio of BSN nurses that work on our floor. I think it is something like 80%. So take heart. As far as what I have experienced from the students that do clinicals on our floor, GCU puts out good nurses. And when it comes down to it that is what makes for a good nurse is someone that can translate into the real world.
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