No gloves ever?!? - page 8

by dizzyray822

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So I'm in my last rotation of nursing school and I followed a nurse in CVICU today. Well from the getgo he mentioned he's "old school" and that's fine with me. In fact I get excited when I hear that as I figure I'll learn a lot.... Read More


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    Quote from BabyLady
    Good Gosh..are you serious?

    Do you really think that a glove vs no glove can make a difference of sexual contact?

    So if a healthcare worker wanted to molest a patient with their hand, all they have to do is don a glove and call it peri-care and they are scot free?

    Please let those on the abuse registry know where they went wrong.

    Unwanted sexual contact is LEGALLY DEFINED as contact of any kind...glove or no glove!!!!!

    I guess if you wear a condom, you are not guilty of rape either because technically, you didn't touch them.
    As the use of gloves is "standard of care", touching the genitalia w/o gloves could specifically be construed as sexually oriented, and therefore sexual battery or assault. This would be without regard to patient consent, LOC, etc.. Some male OB/GYNs have been prosecuted for "unnecessary" and bare-handed exams, that while w/in standard of technique were determined to be overly frequent, or in the case of bare-handed, specifically sexually gratifying to the doc.
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    Sometimes when we have been on the job awhile, we get a little bit lackadaisical about policies and standards. There are times that I run into an insolation patients room quickly to stop a pump without gown and gloves, and I shouldn't. Although I have gotten more comfortable doing assessments and such without gloves, working in an oncology unit has made me more diligent about good handwashing. However, gloves for things like bodily fluid or mucous membrane contact is a standard of care for a reason. The OP is right to be questioning this nurse's practice and if I were a clinical instructor I would think twice about having that nurse precept any more of my students. It is not ok. People do die from hospital (read "health care worker") acquired infections. And remember, as much as new grads and students learn from those of us that have been practicing awhile, we learn from them too. They are good reminders to us about the way things should be! Alot of hospitals are also encouraging their patients to be on the lookout for staff hand hygiene and to speak up when they don't see it. Its a growing focus and I think its only going to get more stringent in coming days.
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    Seriously?! You got into this profession, you need to wear gloves and wash your hands between each patient. It is not "COOL" or "NEW WAVE" or "SOLDIER" to not wear gloves and wash the hands, it's absolutely unsafe and disregarding personal and patient safety.
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    thats disgusting... total disregard for lets say the cancer patient down the hall bc he didnt realize the new pt had c diff
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    EWWWW!!!His practices are not only hazardous to himself but to the patients he takes care of!! He is a walking vector of infection!! I cannot believe he does not stop to think of the effect he is having not on himself but all the other patients and things he is touching throughout the day. A 5 second rinse is not effective at removing fecal matter and infection off your hands. I would definately report him, if IDPH was there they would have a field day with this guy. Old school is one thing but not following standard precautions is another. He may be used to practicing in his old ways but new information about diseases and transmission has been discovered since he was trained. It is his obligation as a professional to follow the rules to prevent endangerment to his patients, fellow co-workers and himself!

    I wouldn't "shake his hand" either!
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    Quote from dizzyray822
    So I'm in my last rotation of nursing school and I followed a nurse in CVICU today. Well from the getgo he mentioned he's "old school" and that's fine with me. In fact I get excited when I hear that as I figure I'll learn a lot. Well... While this nurse let me do almost everything and I completely appreciate that experience, he didn't wear a pair of gloves the whole day. I watched him do peg meds, draw blood, suction, and clean a diarrhea bottom (touching testicles and all) WITHOUT gloves. I got excited at one point cause he pulled a pair of gloves out BUT THEN he handed them to me, none for him. In fact, when cleaning the poop he said "yeah, I know im being naughty." So, I thought that if he doesn't use gloves then he must scrub his hands. Nope, 5 second rinse, no lather...that's it. I was shocked....
    Needless to say...didn't shake his hand at the end of the day.

    When he stated, "yeah, I know im being naughty" I would have stated, "No, you're being nasty. Who is your Infection Control Nurse/Coordinator"?

    Now, I totally understand that you may have felt you couldn't say that because you're a student and that may get you in trouble with your Instructor and the facility, however do not feel like you can't say that when you get your license!
    badmamajama likes this.
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    Please go to cdc.gov and osha.gov for the proper recommendations for the use of PPE's (gloves). You may be very surprised.


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