St. Paul School of Nursing Queens 2011

U.S.A. New York

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Hello Everyone,

I recently applied to nursing schools; and let me tell you most schools did not give me the opportunity like St. Paul School of Nursing in Flushing Queens, did. Aside from just wanting to take my money they really did not show much other attention to me; mind you I have volunteer experience in hospitals around Manhattan; a good GPA and stellar recommendation letters not to mention I scored in the upper 90 percentile. So needless to say I felt really depressed thinking that I would not be able to get into nursing school and I would have to waste another year waiting to get into school.

I applied to Saint Paul sort of on a long shot thinking I would not get in.

For those applying let me walk you through what I did.

First I went to their website and I entered my information; I was then mailed an admission packet.

Which I read thoroughly and made sure to follow all the directions. Then I called the admission department and set up an interview. On the day of the interveiw I called them before I went to the interview to confirm my appointment. Initially I was told that the person I had the interview with no longer worked their and I was transferred to a different admission representative. Now let me tell you this; there are two representatives and hundreds of people applying to the program leaving these guys messages will not help you will have to call a couple of times until you get them. I called two times and was able to set up and appointment.

On the day of the appointment I had everything prepared. All my paper work and check was in order; I was able to get a tour of the facility and I was also secheduled for the 12 Minute IQ Test for the week after. Note: Take the IQ test seriously if you read the school handbook it will tell you the maker and information on the test so you can practice. You need to get at least sixteen right in order to move on to the next test.

I passed the IQ test and my results were given after the test; I was then scheduled for the HESI about two-three weeks later. Again you want to study for this test as well; it may seem simple but the day I took my exam I was the only person in the room apparently taking the test for the first time; most of the other individuals were re-taking portions they had previously failed.

Once again I passed; note if you are curious as to my scores I got a 96% in the math and an overall average of 90% for the grammar, reading and vocabulary. (Side note vocabulary brought me down to a 90% if not I would have had a much higher overall) Also, note that in order to pass each section I believe you need atleast 75% to still be considered. My overall college GPA was 2.7 when I applied to St. Paul and my sciences were at 3.5; and after graduation from college my overall was back over a 3.0; but that did not matter because I had already been accepted.

Now after taking the test you are able to view your score report on each part. ALSO note if you are not good with computers well you will be out of luck because everything here is done on computers so you best start getting comfortable.

If you are still with me now comes the part of Acceptance. It took them about a week and half after the HESI for them to review my application I was a bit nervous because I did not hear anything from the school.

When I did find out I was accepted; I received a phone call from my admissions officer stating that I had gotten in and I need to come in to finish the rest of the formalities.

So, my next appointment from that phone call was two days later; I went in and paid my $50 dollar deposit to hold my seat; got my information for my background check, drug test and also meet with the financial aid counselor.

Note you will have a time limit as to when these things must be completed so do it ASAP. The financial aid counselor will schedule you another appointment two weeks from that day to make sure all of your information is in order.

Now, to address accreditation because I was so worried with all the drama I been reading on these boards and it got me so worried and I had to sit down and do my own homework on it. St. Paul is accredited by the NYS Regents Board. As far as NLN accreditation goes that will take some time because they had bought the rights to Saint Vincents (hence that is why when you file your financial aide the school code will show Saint Vincents) so things seem to still be in the midst of working out. I am not worried about the NLN accreditation because at the end of the day I will be able to sit for the exam and at this stage all I want is to get license and then move on. For those of you who have an issue with this then maybe this is not the school for you and you should try else where that might be accredited but please do not bash the school; I actually feel like you guys are not doing the school justice. I went to other nursing schools to check it out and see what they are all about and to be honest Saint Paul is upfront with you; if you ask a question they give you an answer they do not give you the run around like some schools (in case your interested I checked out some schools in Westchester County).

As far as transfer credits go; when you get called in for your drug test information etc. you will be given a sheet that tells you all the classes you had transferred; you will also be given an agreement stating how much tuition will be etc and your agreeing to the two year program.

Personally two my classes did not transfer they were too old; so I opted to take them over the summer and a CUNY community college because they only cost me about $2000 dollars at CUNY. The catch to doing this is 1. you have to make sure your grades are submitted before the first day of classes. 2. You also have to make sure that your grades are higher than a C+ in order for them to be transferred in.

I also read of the blogs around that the school needs better administration; now that worried me a little until I spoke to the administrative staff; they were all nice to me (mind you if you are rude to someone they will be rude to you right back) just keep your cool and people will treat you nicely. I dealt with the CUNY system for many years both as a student and an employee so I know how hard it is to deal with administration. But at the end of the day no one is going to hold your hand and baby you.

Choosing to go into the nursing field means that no one will hold your hand every step of the way and tell you that this is what you need to do. By choosing this profession you acknowledge that you are an adult and as such you are capable and free to make your own decisions.

If you have any questions feel free to message me; or if you have any tips for me as it stands I am a new student starting this fall so I can use all the advice I can get.

Please people keep the negativity to yourself; I will only respond to positive comments and concerns. My little blurb here is based on my experience with Saint Paul as of right now my opinion of the school might change in the future but so far its been a descent one. I look forward to working hard and making use of the school's resources.

P.S. Clinical's are held at New York Hospital of Queens. I hope this helps anyone who has been stuck.

Hi Blue,

Sorry I did change my response to what you wrote because I did not see the second posting so I edited it to fit your response.

I was also impressed that someone took the time to write down what we were all feeling to some extent.

Yes parking is a nightmare, I take the bus and walk so I try to pay no attention to it; I knew that was going to happen. They are all about the money, don't get me started. But what can you so all schools are all about the money.

Choosing to go into the nursing field means that no one will hold your hand every step of the way and tell you that this is what you need to do. By choosing this profession you acknowledge that you are an adult and as such you are capable and free to make your own decisions.

This is THE most important part of your post. And I think it has a lot to do with what was said in subsequent posts (like the letter from the student). There is not a school in the world that is easy. Students do fail exams, sometimes a lot of them do. Then they figre out the teacher's style, the style of the questions, and a game plan to get through the rest of the semester. Yes, there are instructors (probably at this school, because there are ones in many other schools) who are not effective. Yet, students do pass, and move on, and take NCLEX. These are the students who are not depending on the teacher's lecture notes alone to pass the exams.

If they are no passing students, schools do not survive, and state boards of Nursing get involved. Trust me, they do get involved. How are the NCLEX rates for this school? If they are good (and the # taking the boards are more than 10 a year (lol, I'm exaggerating), then they are doing their job. There are schools in this area that have been 'on notice' from the BON about their pass rates (and I am not talking about this school).

Who was this letter written to (asking for the readers' presence at the school)?

The school is owned by Education Affiliates so I am assuming the man named in the later is from EA and not the actual school.

that is what I am assuming as well Blue but I guess we will all see hopefully sometime this week. Its a shame that is has come to this. When students as a whole agree that individuals are abusing power its a shame.

I am a student at st. pauls school of nursing....all i have to say is IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHOOSE ANOTHER NURSING PROGRAM PLEASE DO NOT COME HERE!

Along with the problems you have read earlier, apparently they have stooped sooooo low that they , the director of nursing along with her croonies, the elder that teaches fundamentals, another one's name that sounds like "wild" ...are erasing answers on the scantrons, why you ask because they accept too many people in their program and are trying to get rid of more students. do you know a nursing school that accepts 60- 70 students per semester.....i dont think so, rumor has it that they only want 40 people at graduation so guess what people. they are going to do what they have to do for themselves.

When re-checking your exams to see where you went wrong, all of a sudden you cant see your original exam, they say its locked away- what does that have to do with anything, go and get it, shouldnt it be that simple!

1) according to policy they are supposed to take 1 week to return your exam, but for whatever reasons they take over that time.

2)there are a number of people who say that for some reason there scantron doesnt match their exam, could this be the reason the original tests are "locked away now"

3) half of the class dropped due to the illegal changing of the answers.

I know it may sound crazy but is it a coincidence that at least 10 people say that they have the wrong answers erased and changed on their scantron, but on their original exam its the correct choice, at first i thought ok maybe i made an error , that never happened before, but after speaking to a few others i realize something has got to be wrong. its a scandal and something has got to give. this is a pretty expensive school that isnt even nln accredited yet and there are too many problems.

do yourself a favor, and save yourself, i know it sounds crazy but i guarantee you that its happening.

i know it sounds like im rambling but im kind of upset with my future that lies in this schools hands.

oh i forgot to mention that they started a medical assistant program that is for 4 semesters, that is the same price as the rn program, so ive heard, then they can get into the associates rn... what a rip off....... good luck!

My my those are some pretty strong accusations. I can totally understand your frustrations but name calling will get you no were. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion I guess. I for one have never encountered the problem of not being allowed to review an exam 1:1 if I ever had any concerns regarding my grade. As for class sizes I have spoken to several nurses during my clinical rotations that are actually surprised at the size of our classes. Surprised at how small we are. Apparently they went to schools were they had classes of over 100+ students.

I hate to say it but education is becoming a money machine. It's St. Pauls now because St. Vinnys didn't have the what? The money to keep it afloat. Rumors will be rumors but anyone with any sense will know to do their own research and go with their gut when investing their own time and money into any institution.

hi blue squares,

first i want to say i dont see where i called anyone names,

secondly, yes there was a point in time where u were allowed to go over your exam 1:1, for some reason, at this very moment, they stopped it. you will not be allowed to see your own exam to review it. go and see if you can review your exam and let me know what happens. if they you review your exam than what im saying is bull.

now education affiliates came to visit the school, i wonder if they looked at the exams instead of just sitting to observe classes. could this be the reason why they reprinted the exam with clearer choices. If you review your exam carefully look at the choices, especially the hypoglycemic question where it mentions a bore needle.

hi blue squares,

first i want to say i dont see where i called anyone names,

secondly, yes there was a point in time where u were allowed to go over your exam 1:1, for some reason, at this very moment, they stopped it. you will not be allowed to see your own exam to review it. go and see if you can review your exam and let me know what happens. if they let you review your exam than what im saying is bull.

now education affiliates came to visit the school, i wonder if they looked at the exams instead of just sitting to observe classes. could this be the reason why they reprinted the exam with clearer choices. If you review your exam carefully look at the choices, especially the hypoglycemic question where it mentions a bore needle.

"of nursing along with her croonies..."

crony |ˈkrōnē|

noun ( pl. -nies) informal often derogatory

a close friend or companion : he went gambling with his cronies.

Im not in your class so I never took that exam so I never encountered those questions. However I had to google "bore needle" just to be sure of what it is.

science101,

This was JUST what I've been looking for! I submitted my application and got called for the interview for Nov 29, 2011.. Is there any way to study for the IQ test?? What about the HESI exam? How should I study for those because I was looking for free online sources but couldn't find any?

Also, if you have started classes how do you like it? Are you working? And how do you balance working and school? Do you take night or day classes? Please respond, thanks!

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